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    yeah, level 60 combat class titles should allow you to cross class any skills from that class.
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    No, thank you. I'd rather not have to farm 81278124 MGP to get that +5% crit, or something stupid like this.
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    I've read that the Mameteer title makes some minions behave differently while worn. Not sure if any other titles come with abilities.
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    It really isn't a requirement, just like a having a WHM isn't a requirement even in static raids. That said, I don't care any more - this conversation is going no where. I've already decided I am unsubbing, in large part due to the lack of customization and flavour this game has, as soon as WoW Legion drops.

    That said, I wanted to note that requiring someone to bring the MND title is really no different than requiring a NIN to have Blood for Blood unlocked. The major difference is anyone who has it unlocked in a group can bring it (another example, say I haev SCH and BRD at 60, and a NIN in my party has NIN / WHM - we could set it that I apply the dex and they apply the MND buff for the team). I don't really see for a mass exodus off cross class skills, so I don't really understand the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    It really isn't a requirement, just like a having a WHM isn't a requirement even in static raids. That said, I don't care any more - this conversation is going no where. I've already decided I am unsubbing, in large part due to the lack of customization and flavour this game has, as soon as WoW Legion drops.

    That said, I wanted to note that requiring someone to bring the MND title is really no different than requiring a NIN to have Blood for Blood unlocked. The major difference is anyone who has it unlocked in a group can bring it (another example, say I haev SCH and BRD at 60, and a NIN in my party has NIN / WHM - we could set it that I apply the dex and they apply the MND buff for the team). I don't really see for a mass exodus off cross class skills, so I don't really understand the problem.
    bye bye, don't eat too much plastic in wow land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    There's a case by case difference. I would agree with you with this if it relates to SE's refusal to implement in-game parsers, because parsers overall would encourage people to actually learn and improve (though as with the mentor system, there will always be a minority that uses it incorrectly/abuse it to the highest order). But stat titles at the end of the day really wouldn't add anything meaningful besides just being another min-max stat boost to consider.

    This game is not lacking in ways to increase your stats. It lacks actual variety in stats and choice in choosing which stats you want to work towards (though SE is taking baby steps towards rectifying this by re-introducing materia melds back into tome gear, though even THAT was met by disdain from a vocal minority because of RNG and crafters being involved). Even so, for the stat variety part, introducing more stats wouldn't mean anything if people will just ignore it in their min-max game if it doesn't do anything significant.

    (Like how Accuracy is useless for everyone but healers right now because gear provides enough of it already, and Parry is straight up worthless for tanks right now. Incidentally both are RNG stats. While Critical is also an RNG stat, stacking that actually has FAR more noticeable effects than the other two. Trying to adjust accuracy to make stacking it necessary would most definitely result in massive backlash too. Just look at the Healer accuracy issue.)

    I think what would be nice is if we had materia that added bonus effects to your skills. I say materia because it would force people to choose between stats and a boost to their abilities. It should be limited to quality of life stuff rather than major offensive boosts though, like no cooldown reductions or straight up damage boosts. Something like a DRG Blood of the Dragon -> Full Thrust always resulting in Fang and Claw procs instead of the 50/50 chance it currently has of proccing Wheeling Thrust instead.
    Couldn't agree more with ya!

    Except, I didn't know the materia addition has been met with disdain? Adding that has been one of the better changes in the past several patches imo. I definitely voiced my issues with it (such as requiring crafters, and stats as a whole needing a complete re-work) but the materia slots themselves have been a welcome addition.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    bye bye, don't eat too much plastic in wow land.
    Huh? Is this a post to show how the community on FFXIV is much more mature than that in WoW?
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    No thx , i dont want to feel forced to run XY-content stuff just to have some title bonus ^^, we have alrdy enough stuff going on with farming tomes/red scrips and what not

    and good buy Kaurie ^^and why do u keep posting then? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    No thx , i dont want to feel forced to run XY-content stuff just to have some title bonus ^^, we have alrdy enough stuff going on with farming tomes/red scrips and what not

    and good buy Kaurie ^^and why do u keep posting then? :P
    Not sure why you think I wouldn't want to post? I posted, because I had a few things to say.

    EDIT: I guess it is because I said "I don't care any more - this conversation is going no where."? In which case, I figured I should have my final post in the conversation, as just up and leaving is rude. No?
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