Midas Savage Progression Question

[ruskie]

I never drop WM. Just not worth it. Feint tends to be enough for 99% of movement. But yeah Feint is our mobility tool.

[JackFross]

I don't play Bard;;; I just have been looking at fflogs with the MCH in my static and seeing that MCH drops GB at points for reasons and figured BRD would work similarly.

It is worth noting that 120*1.3 = 156 which is more than a non-Minuet Heavy Shot (150) not even including Disembowel (which, unless your DRG sucks, should literally never drop in any current content). That said, it's also worth noting that, assuming you lock on/strafe when moving, that 150 out-of-minuet HS is accompanied by autos, so it would /technically/ be a gain, so long as you don't overlap an Iron Jaws or Empyreal Arrow cast (or other ogcds? I think?).

It seems up to personal preference - I'm seeing some Bards toggle Minuet at certain points and others only turn it off for the opener on each boss in A6S.

[ruskie]

I don't play Bard;;; I just have been looking at fflogs with the MCH in my static and seeing that MCH drops GB at points for reasons and figured BRD would work similarly.

From my understanding a machinist can gain a very minor DPS increase with stance dancing.

It seems up to personal preference - I'm seeing some Bards toggle Minuet at certain points and others only turn it off for the opener on each boss in A6S.

The out of WM opener is an alternate opener for bards. It might help with some fights. As for certain points it depends how well they can move(or if they have ogcds they can burn at that point or a proc or if they have feint). I never bothered with lock on/strafing much but then I didn't run around like a headless chicken as well.

[jssanderson747]

Only time I'll drop minuet in savage is for added movement. A heavy shot in that form does about the same as feint and I might hit an auto attack or two so I get a little extra damage. But yeah, minuet would ideally never be dropped in a perfect rotation.

[Amira]

So our group raided last night and I'm definitely pulling more DPS than Monday, by 150-250+.

I'm more comfortable stance dancing now which is more preferable, since at 1100+ Crit, my bloodletter procs quite often and in WM I tend to loose out on some free procs during the casting. During times when I can just turret, my DPS is acceptable, it's during movement that hurts since weaving in and out of WM is harder to pull off and I rely on Feint/procs a lot more.

While learning how to play Bard this way is truly trial by fire, I still don't honestly see the need for Bard or Machinist, as my raid leader seems to vehemently think. My SMN is still a lot more geared (near ilvl230 now) and I still have a lot more raid experience on it and Res during combat is easier/less taxing for me to do than our healers (whom are NOT running out of MP issues btw). If anything I should lvl MCH and run that over Bard, since they seem to have a better raid toolset than Bard does for A6S (ranged slow, root, and stun, plus a disable which the bard doesn't have).

Meh. At the very least I'm making myself more versatile I guess?