ATMAs should just drop on the first fate

[JustPlainLucas]

I did this on my old character. I started anew and was having a lot of fun with the game up to this point, and I've spent about an hour trying to get just one. I heard they improved the drop rate, but I call BS. Regardless, I think at this point in the game, there's no reason to grind THIS heavily for the relic weapon anymore, considering I bought a weapon off the Marketplace that's a lot stronger.

I've heard this game has made many changes to help bring new players up to speed for new content. Well, the ATMA part of the relic quest is something that still needs to be greatly improved. Just let the ATMAs drop on the first fates please.

[Tint]

I've heard this game has made many changes to help bring new players up to speed for new content. Well, the ATMA part of the relic quest is something that still needs to be greatly improved. Just let the ATMAs drop on the first fates please.

new players don't have to make an atma weapon. they can skip the whole thing.

letting the atmas drop in first fate is laughable. why not just place an NPC beside jalzahn where you can purchase them for 500 gil? (this is the price you have to spend for the teleports but it will save you another like 5 minutes)

[Mimilu]

letting the atmas drop in first fate is laughable. why not just place an NPC beside jalzahn where you can purchase them for 500 gil? (this is the price you have to spend for the teleports but it will save you another like 5 minutes)

Why is it laughable?
People still will have to do Animus, Novus, Nexus, and Zodiac.

[cgbspender]

yeah, and then those same people will say " please make the melds 100%, there's no reason.... Please give all the lights in one run, there's no reason..."

[Aetharon]

When you take into account the fact that EVERY stage of the relic weapon has an achievement attached to it, doesn't it make more sense for the relic to actually take some WORK?

Each stage of the relic has been made easier in one way or another over time, but ATMA's dropping on the first fate is more than a bit excessive. Speaking from recent personal experience, the drop rates are more than good enough as they are.

The achievement of actually obtaining the relic and upgrading it to the final pre-HW stage has already become of less value. It really doesn't need to be devalued further.

[Mimilu]

When you take into account the fact that EVERY stage of the relic weapon has an achievement attached to it, doesn't it make more sense for the relic to actually take some WORK?

Each stage of the relic has been made easier in one way or another over time, but ATMA's dropping on the first fate is more than a bit excessive. Speaking from recent personal experience, the drop rates are more than good enough as they are.

The achievement of actually obtaining the relic and upgrading it to the final pre-HW stage has already become of less value. It really doesn't need to be devalued further.

Achievements are lame and should never have been implemented in XIV because of some people putting too much importance on them. :B

[Aetharon]

Achievements are lame and should never have been implemented in XIV because of some people putting too much importance on them. :B

While achievements aren't all THAT important, they are still a good milestone for a task or challenge being completed. Don't you get a small sense that you've accomplished something when you get a notification that you've completed an achievement?

[Mimilu]

While achievements aren't all THAT important, they are still a good milestone for a task or challenge being completed. Don't you get a small sense that you've accomplished something when you get a notification that you've completed an achievement?

Other then winning a fight, no.
Grind and RNG-based achievements are just a reminder that you waste too much time on this game. >w>

[Nyghtmarerobu]

Why is it laughable?
People still will have to do Animus, Novus, Nexus, and Zodiac.

Have to? You don't have to do it at all. Its not even needed for the newer relics whatsoever.

Achievements are lame and should never have been implemented in XIV because of some people putting too much importance on them. :B

Pretty sure this was sarcastic, but either way, you have no right to tell people what is important to them.

[Mimilu]

Have to? You don't have to do it at all. Its not even needed for the newer relics whatsoever.

The topic isn't about how mandatory doing the phases of the relic quest-line is, it's making the Atma from FATEs drop quicker. I was just showing that it wouldn't really matter if the Atmas dropped instantaneously because there are four other phases of the quest that you need to grind your ass off.

Pretty sure this was sarcastic, but either way, you have no right to tell people what is important to them.

It's not sarcasm, I think achievements are lame, some people to too much emphasis on them, and I have every right to say what I think is and isn't important.