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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Biggest disappointment as a Scholar.

    You are not, and never will be, considered a healer of any capacity at all. You're nothing but a glorified DPS that shrugs off all responsibility of the role to the other, infinitely more competent healer while you're off in your own little world spamming dps abilities and occasionally throwing up an Adlo if the stars align and it's necessary. No strategy, no planning, if things go tits up you don't even have the healing power to salvage the raid, you just roll over and die.

    But that's just what I've seen from every Scholar I've ever met from 2.5 to now, so I guess people enjoy pretending to be a DPS.
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Infinitely more competent? As the one who has to DPS and pick up the slack of your healer ally if something starts going wrong? No, you want the competent one to be able to do everything, so having it DPS while also still making sure everything needed for a healer role is taken care of means a SCH will be the more competent one...

    You know, assuming you have a competent SCH.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    No strategy, no planning, if things go tits up you don't even have the healing power to salvage the raid, you just roll over and die.
    Also, what?
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    Leera Katz
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    schs aint bad at healing, id even say they can soloheal the best too, plus back in coil sch was basically required, try surving T13 giga or t11s ultimate without adlo and enhanced virus.
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Really isnt true when raiding. SCH has lots of responsiblities that if not done correctly, can lead to wipes. Mitiagation, emergency healing and dps are SCH forte in raids. All need to be done with the same level of skill.

    In all other content, all three healers can push out the same amount of dps whilst keeping the party alive, so it not just SCH.

    Also if things go tits up in a raid (as you say), skilled Scholars certainly do have the power to salvage the raid.
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    Shadowflare -> Bio 2 -> Miasma -> Bio -> Aero -> Broil spam is the very basis of brain dead though. There's no strategy and no thought, Scholar's don't even need to heal in any 8 man content! I've asked every Scholar I could find, and they all say the same thing. 'A7S? I throw adlos for the tank busters, and DPS. How many? Tonight there was... four? Five?' 'A8S? Spam Succor in the last phase lol after DoTing up, hope my partner doesn't run out of mana.' 'Didn't need to throw a single adlo tonight on the rest, just DPS the whole time! Was great mang, my damage was so high.' 200 Scholars? 300? I lost count somewhere after the 80th one. This does NOT sound like a carefully laid strategy, this just sounds like being lazy while the more competent healer just deals with everything. And during the learning process? They threw out maybe 2, 3 more adlos. That's it.
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 04-12-2016 at 05:18 PM.

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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    i can agree being required to dps the most time is not that fun as a healer.

    but a sch IS a powerfull healer with lots of strategy involved AND planning. and you can turn a bad situation. you can spread adlo to the whole group, turn your shields into healing, sacrifice your fairy for more stacks wich leads to more emergency healing...

    but yeah, most sch are just really bad at their job. i think no other job has that many bad players...
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    Wtf did I just read
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Wtf did I just read
    I hope its a troll.

    The level of "i have heard people on my server" here is funny. Kind of suggests OP has zero experience on SCH, since everythign they base it on is hear say from others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    200 Scholars? 300? I lost count somewhere after the 80th one.
    K. Credibility < 0
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    Last edited by DarkmoonVael; 04-12-2016 at 05:27 PM.

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    Hades Pluto
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    Welllllll I only do dungeons as sch ( Never done or Never will do raids) and yes the fairy mostly heals but sch is a defensive healer while your fairy brings the embrace, its amazing when you do it right just keep practicing and you'll eventually get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powe View Post
    Welllllll I only do dungeons as sch ( Never done or Never will do raids) and yes the fairy mostly heals but sch is a defensive healer while your fairy brings the embrace, its amazing when you do it right just keep practicing and you'll eventually get it
    Dungeons? All I do is spam DPS spells mindlessly while Selene heals everything. Not a whole lot to get. In 8 man content? I /wave at the other healer and proceed to spend the entire instance spamming DPS spells while Selene heals, occasionally throwing an adlo if the tank needs it, or an Indomitibility. I'm not healing, I'm not watching HP bars unless the WHM or AST suddenly dies, and even then just long enough to throw a Lustrate or two at the tank after rezzing the other healer, then I go back to facerolling DPS spells. There's no healing that I'm ever actively doing, and I find it to be the most boring tripe in this game. It sucks, cause I like the idea behind Scholar, but the execution is just, 'Glorified DPS'.
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