Quote Originally Posted by Nominous View Post
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the loot is not the carrot enough, like said tons of people don't have the means nor want to invest themself into this, then use this for pull more people into it will not work. even if the difference was bigger people will not do it because they don't want!

the trouble is not continue to use a model that is broken... so far people do normal raid why? because it's accessible, anyone with a bit of pratice can do it... but that not different than a brutal mode of a trial, if you take out the reward no one will do it. and nothing will change.

the trouble is to focus on a pyramid model, here we have the raid that are at the top, nothing at the same level. and below you have different level of content that will deliver less good experience and reward. because that a fact, raid soo far don't offer a very rewarding experience, choreagraphy that must be executed perfectly is nice and all but let's face it, when you did learn how to do it, where is the fun? it become a boring experience.

i don't say to take out the raid, i say to have another content at the same level for another type of player. it will not make the raid irrevelant and if people need the carrot for feel the point to do it... it means the raid is failling to appeal to the player. raider when i was raiding was doing it for the thrill more than the loot. the loot was a means to beat the raid and a way to show you have done it, not the purpose to do it.