Issue With End Game Raiding

[Marcellus_Cassius]

Like it has been said, end game for most is the weekly Alex (normal) turn ins and the occasional Trial (Ex) which are becoming increasingly burdensome. If you take into account that Alex Midas is the second iteration of the same formula as its predecessor we end up with a non-savage raiding community that is as equally disinterested and fatigued as their counterparts.

I think the solution is to add content which builds FC communities, such as XI's sky/sea end game. For those unfamiliar with those, its content requiring large scale collaboration over time (unlike the Diadem) to ultimately spawn a super boss.

[KarstenS]

we end up with a non-savage raiding community

Thats just an opinion.

As we started yersterday our first raid day of the week, the mass of people at the entrance of Midas did cause a massive frame rate drop of my SLI system.

And these were just the people, which were waiting to start, not the others, who were already within.

[Klamor]

As we started yersterday our first raid day of the week, the mass of people at the entrance of Midas did cause a massive frame rate drop of my SLI system.

I hope by "massive frame rate drop" you mean from 180 FPS to around 100 FPS, and that you're not using SLI on a pair of 120s. lol

[RiceisNice]

Thats just an opinion.

As we started yersterday our first raid day of the week, the mass of people at the entrance of Midas did cause a massive frame rate drop of my SLI system.

And these were just the people, which were waiting to start, not the others, who were already within.

Likewise to your observation; on my server, there was hardly more than 6 groups on release night gathering at peak time. Now you don't see more than 3 people gathering at the entrance. The raiding population simply isn't there anymore for most servers after gordias, and there's no boom in population inbetween.

[Marcellus_Cassius]

Thats just an opinion.

As we started yersterday our first raid day of the week, the mass of people at the entrance of Midas did cause a massive frame rate drop of my SLI system.

And these were just the people, which were waiting to start, not the others, who were already within.

Yeah, next time you quote someone quote the whole sentence and not a few words that change the meaning to your liking. If you finish reading my opinion it doesn't state that we have a non savage raiding community but instead that THE non savage raiding community is just as disinterested in endgame activities. And a few hundred people making your computer lag on a Tuesday isn't much to go by.

[KarstenS]

but instead that THE non savage raiding community is just as disinterested in endgame activities.

What is "endgame"? Hint: Its not just savage

The savage raiding community is a small part of the whole playerbase. But this is not new. It has always been and will ever be like this.

And a few hundred people.

Maybe it depends hugely on the server. But they were way more than a few hundred. The amount of people I did see yesterday was larger than I've ever seen in the good old days at the entrances of first, second or final coil.

Just because you don't raid it doesn't mean nobody else does.

The community is not that dead. Maybe on servers without an healthy raiding community before. But not everywhere.

[Marcellus_Cassius]

What is "endgame"? Hint: Its not just savage

The savage raiding community is a small part of the whole playerbase. But this is not new. It has always been and will ever be like this.



Maybe it depends hugely on the server. But they were way more than a few hundred. The amount of people I did see yesterday was larger than I've ever seen in the good old days at the entrances of first, second or final coil.

Just because you don't raid it doesn't mean nobody else does.

The community is not that dead. Maybe on servers without an healthy raiding community before. But not everywhere.

You're still missing my entire argument, I never said the raiding community was dead, you said I said the raiding community was dead, get it?

Even though endgame is more than fighting stuff, in this thread we're talking about fighting stuff- thats the "endgame activity" being discussed here.