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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
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    I know what you mean, and I agree also about that unfortunately there is lot of French that have that attitude, but lately I've been encountering the same number of Germans doing the same... and the ones with E language (which can be italian, spanish, or from else). BUT I agree that these kind of players are putting bad light on the good F players and unfortunately those get stigmatized because of this.
    Tho I learned to give everyone a chance when I enter the dungeon.... you never know and last time i got harassed it wasn't a french who did it.

    Edit: I agree with the online °_°/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    I started picking up hate, regularly, so I shrugged it off and I didn't even bother explaining anything to them, they clearly didn't care assuming how they were playing and the fact that they were French just by looking at the character list.
    I’m sorry, but you can’t deduct someone's nationality based on their character names. That’s just silly. I have characters with Japanese, French and German names, but that doesn’t make me any more Japanese, French or German then the next player. And if it appears that they aren’t that fluent in English, does that automatically make them a “foreigner”?

    I’ve read conversations from my fellow countrymen that made me feel ashamed to share the same nationality, because of their poor writing skills or lack of interesting in proper spelling or grammar (and i’m far from perfect myself).

    People tend to “Pigeonhole” other players based on them being elite, casual, French, Japanese, male or female. I just want to ask: “Why?” Does it really matter where they are from, what their gender is or what playstyle they use? We’re all simple “people playing the same game”.

    So, i agree with wat Sayafrost said below:


    Quote Originally Posted by sayafrost View Post
    Oh com'on I encountered rude people of every type - be it E, F or D - here is not the point of being from that ethnicity! The point is there is plenty rude people in this game, but at the same time there is a lot of nice ones... I encountered the nicest E,F and D people. The point is that F and D get noticed the most because they have different letter.

    OP was unlucky and fell into a group of rude people and also with a language barrier...
    The issue is not their nationality, it’s their attitude. I’ve had my share my bad apples in games and the majority of them were not French. I can tell you that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Enough with the excuses, it's no coincidence that the HUGE majority of bad/rude players are French. I got nothing against the French, and no one's talking about their ethnicity (you know, I'm caucasian as well), but their culture. They're prone to do those things and be like that online, end of the story. Either they start by cleaning their own mess or more people will isolate them because of themselves. Of course, I've met some great French players myself, but, you know, I tend to avoid them for a reason.

    Edit: Bolded the word "online" to clarify that I'm explicitly speaking in gaming terms.
    And i’d like to repeat that this is not something that only the French people are known for. It’s people in general who have a lack of common decency and simply a bad attitude who cause problems like this. It’s just that the French stick out like a sore thumb because of the language barrier. If they were using fluent english, then the thought wouldn’t have even crossed your mind that they could be French.

    You would’ve just said “That guy’s an asshole!”.

    Like the day before yesterday, i was in a Neverreap with a Paladin tank who was having trouble maintaining hate since he wasn’t using his skills right. Like you we shrugged and continued, but when one of our DPS used the LB when the boss had 4% HP left he replied with “wtf why did you use lb when the boss was almost dead. youre not the sharpest tool in the drawer are you?” “explain to me why you felt that you had to use the lb”

    As a healer i couldn’t care less when people use the LB, as long as we make it through the duty smoothly. So, i told the Paladin “It doesn’t really matter. It’s only the first boss, so we have plenty of time to gain more.”

    After a “meh”, he continued. But, during the 2nd boss, we had too many totems stacked to close to each other, so we ended up not being able to move all of them out of the ring in time and 2 of them “popped”. The tank didn’t get the adds of me, because the boss only had 3% HP left and i died just as the last Totem died. So, when the boss was killed, i returned.

    The Paladin didn’t agree with me and said: “wtf healer! Why did you do that? I couldve raised you”. So, i replied: “Well, you can’t raise me in battle and returning will also remove the weakness debuff.”

    “oh… I’m still new to mmos, so i guess i learned something new. meh.”

    Long story short, this guy was apparently new, but he was already showing some attitude issues which will be a problem later on.

    Every nation has people in it with major attitude issues and you can’t fix the attitude of someone else, like Sayafrost mentioned here:

    Quote Originally Posted by sayafrost View Post
    I know what you mean, and I agree also about that unfortunately there is lot of French that have that attitude, but lately I've been encountering the same number of Germans doing the same... and the ones with E language (which can be italian, spanish, or from else). BUT I agree that these kind of players are putting bad light on the good F players and unfortunately those get stigmatized because of this.
    Tho I learned to give everyone a chance when I enter the dungeon.... you never know and last time i got harassed it wasn't a french who did it.
    Don’t be so quick to judge them as being from a specific nationality, race, gender, etc. They were just being jerks about it. And on that note, i do think that you could’ve handled the situation better yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldora View Post
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    I am sorry you are right, I expressed myself badly - my main point was it does not matter where person is from if they are jerk they are a jerk....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sayafrost View Post
    I am sorry you are right, I expressed myself badly - my main point was it does not matter where person is from if they are jerk they are a jerk....
    Don’t apologize. (^_^ )

    I quoted your posts as a foundation for my own reply, since i agreed with your replies. I was trying to get the same point across as you. So, if i gave you the notion that i was replying to you rather than in agreeance with you, then i could’ve phrased/formatted my reply better/differently.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    I'm not defending Tanathya's attitude, but I don't think they meant they could tell that the players were French just by their names. The party member list shows you what languages your party members have ticked for Duty Finder matchmaking and it's likely they all only had F checked to indicate French. That's not definitive proof of someone's nationality of course, but it's unlikely that someone who wasn't French or didn't even speak it would only check the F and leave everything else blank.
    You are right. I was under the assumption that Tanathya was referring to the names within the character list, rather than their preferred language setting.

    So, that would be my bad. (^_^ )
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