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  1. #91
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    Namida-Hikari, Ultear_Milkovich is French. They're just explaining the communication problems for those who aren't Francophones in the thread, not saying that French people are bad at English.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
    Thats the french in general for you.
    Seriously, English-speakers behave exactly the same on servers where they aren't the majority language. The irony in some of these posts from the perspective of someone on a non-NA world is incredible; if you changed 'French' to 'American' throughout your post it would perfectly match some of my worst parties on a Japanese data centre. But there's no point in grouping all American (or French) players together like that because every culture has its share of bad, uncommunicative players; if the people in question were doing well you probably wouldn't even realise they weren't native speakers in the first place, so poor behaviour stands out.
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  2. #92
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    I'd just like to add here that I've met some really nice French players and the stereotype is pretty silly. I once entered a duty in progress with three other French players. I had French ticked (my own fault, I know). They asked me something in French and I told them I couldn't speak fluent French. They then started speaking what English they could and told me it was no problem and thanked me for helping them finish the duty because they would have had to abandon otherwise. They were also good players as well as good people.

    Edit: this is me merely sharing my experience with language barriers, and showing that it's possible to have a good experience in duty finder regardless.
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  3. #93
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    This thread has been derailed and now talking about prejudices.

    I didn't see anyone bashing the French, the people they were grouped with just happened to be French(and catered to the rude stereotype).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    This thread has been derailed and now talking about prejudices.

    I didn't see anyone bashing the French, the people they were grouped with just happened to be French(and catered to the rude stereotype).
    People were bashing the French the moment this thread was posted, and the thread was cleaned up. My post personally was just my experience with language barriers, which isn't derailing from the OP in any way. Also others posts are in relation to having certain languages ticked but not being able to speak that language.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    This thread has been derailed and now talking about prejudices.

    I didn't see anyone bashing the French, the people they were grouped with just happened to be French(and catered to the rude stereotype).
    If the French speakers who've responded to this thread with translations are right, those players were no more rude than they're expected to be, given the situation. We don't know the full story, but the OP seems to have overreacted and placed that bias on them whether intentionally or not.
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    Three French people, same server, they were together on their first class, all of them were lv21-23.

    Tank would never use Flash, or their enmity combo for that matter, basically spamming Riot Blade. I started picking up hate, regularly, so I shrugged it off and I didn't even bother explaining anything to them, they clearly didn't care assuming how they were playing and the fact that they were French just by looking at the character list.

    Out of the blue, as you can see because I made sure I caught the server message so you can clearly notice how I didn't make things up, the tank started insulting me just like that. Nobody died, I was just the person tanking and he got mad. The picture says it all, nothing else was said after that as I was kicked (thankfully) right after I sent my report in.

    Some people may think others got something against the French community, but the truth is, the French themselves are their own enemies, since they're building their own bad reputation.

    I'm glad I got a nice Aurum Vale party after this and went by quick.
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    Oh com'on I encountered rude people of every type - be it E, F or D - here is not the point of being from that ethnicity! The point is there is plenty rude people in this game, but at the same time there is a lot of nice ones... I encountered the nicest E,F and D people. The point is that F and D get noticed the most because they have different letter.

    OP was unlucky and fell into a group of rude people and also with a language barrier...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sayafrost View Post
    Oh com'on I encountered rude people of every type - be it E, F or D - here is not the point of being from that ethnicity! The point is there is plenty rude people in this game, but at the same time there is a lot of nice ones... I encountered the nicest E,F and D people. The point is that F and D get noticed the most because they have different letter.

    OP was unlucky and fell into a group of rude people and also with a language barrier...
    Enough with the excuses, it's no coincidence that the HUGE majority of bad/rude players are French. I got nothing against the French, and no one's talking about their ethnicity (you know, I'm caucasian as well), but their culture. They're prone to do those things and be like that online, end of the story. Either they start by cleaning their own mess or more people will isolate them because of themselves. Of course, I've met some great French players myself, but, you know, I tend to avoid them for a reason.

    Edit: Bolded the word "online" to clarify that I'm explicitly speaking in gaming terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
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    I know what you mean, and I agree also about that unfortunately there is lot of French that have that attitude, but lately I've been encountering the same number of Germans doing the same... and the ones with E language (which can be italian, spanish, or from else). BUT I agree that these kind of players are putting bad light on the good F players and unfortunately those get stigmatized because of this.
    Tho I learned to give everyone a chance when I enter the dungeon.... you never know and last time i got harassed it wasn't a french who did it.

    Edit: I agree with the online °_°/
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    Last edited by sayafrost; 04-13-2016 at 05:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sayafrost View Post
    I encountered the nicest E,F and D people.
    That's good for you if you met nice people, but I'm not. Most E and F I've met on JP Data Center always did terrible things, rude and using wrong gear. I know there's many good E and F but... Where is it? I only find bad apple from my entire duty finder. Only my English LS did nice things. /endrant
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