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    Player
    Radacci's Avatar
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    French, Polish, Brazilian people are notoriously hostile, in every Multiplayer game i ever played.
    If you get a whole guild of them, they will troll and cuss anyone not in their language exclusive guild, and if you ask them to communicate with you in eng, they will take it as an act of war, and go out of their way to gank you, if possible.
    Ofc it's not all of them, or even most of them, but those that do it, ruin the reputation of an entire country.
    I've chatted with lots of very friendly Brazilians though, and a few of them were very happy to chat with me, and felt that their English improved from it; same with a French guy, in D2 - he said his eng grades dropped, when we lost contact for a while
    I think some people from these countries, are just extremely patriotic when it comes to their language - refuse to learn Eng, and get offended, if you ask them to speak it - It's not like you see Swedish ppl go bananas if you ask them to speak English - they just happily oblige, and apologize for alienating anyone.

    Anyway, this is common on every EU server, in every MMO, not just here.
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    If indeed the French players queued for English, then they are certainly at fault for not replying to the OP in English.

    On the other hand, since the OP had queued for both English and German, for all he knows the French players may have queued for just French and German, being too rusty or poor at English to use it. In that case, he was as wrong for using English as the other players were for using French. Maybe they should all have been talking in German. The problem lies in the fact that, although DF will ensure everyone there has a common language, it doesn't actually tell you what language that is if you'd queued for more than one of them yourself.


    Edit:
    I added a suggestion under the QoL thread based on this observation:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3659065
    The suggestion is for DF to notify us of which language(s) is/are common to the group. It wouldn't help if people are simply being rude, but at least it would allow players who want to be polite about it to know what constitutes being polite.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 04-12-2016 at 07:35 AM.

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    WinterLuna's Avatar
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    Indira Light
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    Twintania
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    Astrologian Lv 69
    The OP included that they were French due to the language barrier and the fact he only had English and German ticked. Not to mention it's probably the rudest thing ever to insult someone in a language they don't even understand (or think they don't understand). Why are you guys backing the 3 other people in the dungeon?
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 04-13-2016 at 11:35 AM.

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    Loki's Avatar
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    Loki Vanheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcher24 View Post
    1) Was in a Dungeon with 3 French guys. They refused to speak English.
    I'm french myself and i give you a hug

    Trolls are everywhere in the world big guy /cheer
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    Narukuchan's Avatar
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    Momoi Yuudai
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    Shiva
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    I've come across French players who actively refuse to speak any English especially when they have someone who isn't native speaker and if you ask to do so start to behave in a negative manner. Reverting to English is something everyone should be capable of as should common courtesy. But I have found many choose not too and that's a sad thing and pisses me off if I am honest.

    Generally I have F not highlighted in my duties etc but if I come across them if they are nice and play well thats fine - but as OP noted when its 3 of them and 1 of you - its not a nice experience. But the French overall have a bad reputation in games I have found - and people are especially vocal about it on my server. But everyone's experience is different. Don't let it get to you just hold your head high and move on. Hopefully you don't have to go through that situation again.

    SE could maybe perhaps do like WoW did and have servers for different countries. But that's not likely tbh..
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Well... among french trolls, many of them will never admit it but most refuse to talk (or write) in english :
    1. because they are so bad in talking/writing english
    2. for a part because they would love to have a french exclusive server and do everything they can to motive other player to changer server
    3. They are naturally jerk even with other french players <=> "I'm a pgm, you're just a noob, leave that game" or "I pay, I do what I want, you don't agree, just f*** off"
    and so on.

    Hopefully, they are not all like that but they are enough, even if they are a minority, to rot game experience of other players (they are french or not).

    (You know, as a french player I can say it, many of french players are used to say their worst experience is with german players XD)
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    From what I've gathered on Reddit and these forums, it seems like there's some sort of ongoing Xenophobia regarding French players in the EU data center.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rench_players/

    Most of the comments seem to agree with the OP
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    More then likely they were all friends possibly and were just rude. Cannot judge all of us French by a few jerks actions.
    Did you report them? I would have, lol
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    I refuse to weigh in on these topics without a screenshot of the conversation.

    There have been times where one person was failing something over and over. Keep telling them what to do. In their eyes they saw me on whm DPSing and assumed their death was me not curing when it was this person failing mechanic. No healing can save you when you keep piling on vulnerability stacks then don't dodge a big hit. If this person made a thread about me and 3 friends. People would just assume we're jerks without the full story.

    Really wish people would screenshot their chat logs.
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    Bob Banner
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    Really wish people would screenshot their chat logs.
    I hope I am not breaking any rules here:
    http://i.imgur.com/VrM3g9u.jpg

    Green is obviously me, red the other guys.
    I have removed the names because I don't want to name and shame.
    Originally, I only made that screenshot for a friend and it went on after this.

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