Stop being so hostile in the game

[Tanathya]

Belgium and Switzerland are in Europe as well.

Be in denial all you want, you just proved many people's point the moment you started calling me names such as "not smart", "narrow minded", and the fact that you mistakenly assumed I was stupid because you thought I only spoke English. You're no better than those who indeed dislike the French just because they speak French, which, for your information, I don't agree with.

Like I said, just stop, because you aren't right; this isn't about the world's population numbers.

[Ultear_Milkovich]

Let me sum up would you?

You came here with a screencap which was irrelevant to the topic (the OP issue already found a solution at this point) and with a theory about FR people, "when it comes to being rude, they take the cake by a long shot".

People provided you with enough examples to prove that you are biaised.

When i did show you actual facts, you stated that "this is not about the worlds population numbers".

But indeed it is: you sustain that speaking French = being French, whereas only 25% of French speakers are actually French. (Facts).

You think that only EU players are on EU servers, which is wrong (i have friends from Qatar on Moogle. I wish Qatar was in the EU so we could have some economic growth).

But let's say i agree with you, so you could have a nice day.

Also "narrow minded" is not an insult afaik and yes, you look to be. Especially when you refuse to take actual figures into consideration just because they are against your theory.

[randysquirrel]

a post about "stop being hostile" has degenerated into this lmao

[Aldora]

a post about "stop being hostile" has degenerated into this lmao

Well, truth be told... I’m happy that we can have a discussion like this on the forum, because it means that this is an issue we are currently being confronted with. By posting about it in the General Discussion forum section, we can make these issues known and talk with one another about it.

Since this is a community related issue, only we (as part of the said community) can actually do something about it. That being said, we can’t solve things by simply pointing our fingers towards something or someone.

We can only solve it if we act upon them as part of a community. A healthy community is a community that can support its fellow members and work together in order to keep it healthy and active.

With the introduction of the Duty Finder, this has become an incredibly difficult task since the DF removed the “need” for social bonds to be formed in order to tackle content. The chance that you will meet up with the same people again is rather slim, which will give people the opportunity to behave like jerks and get away with it.

But, if you look closely, there are groups of people who come up with community run events, which attract the attention from the people around them. This is but a small thing that makes people group together and do things with each other, rather than jumping at each other's throats because they weren’t performing their class at their optimal performance.

We can’t fix someone else's attitude, but we can find friendly / like minded people to work with. Not against.

One way of doing that is to add content which will not be placed within the DF, but can still be fun to do with a group. For example the “treasure hunter dungeon” Maps they are planning to release in Patch 3.3 (which may reveal an entrance to a dungeon instead of a chest). Poppable NM’s. Or maybe a reintroduction of “Hamlet Defense” / “Beastmen camp invasions”.

[Adire]

a post about "stop being hostile" has degenerated into this lmao

You must be new, welcome to the official forums :P

[Tanathya]

All I said is that a ton of people here had the same theory, and you seemed to have taken it out on me for whatever reason. Also no, I'm far from being narrow minded. And yeah, it's not about numbers. Lol. In fact, none of what you said is relevant, maybe what I said isn't either, but I was talking from my experience, and my experience dictates that the majority of rude players have always been French, which doesn't mean that the majority of the French population is rude.

[Ultear_Milkovich]

You have a different experience than mine. This is normal and I respect this.

But you are saying that "all that I said is irrelevant" which seems to be a bit extreme in a discussion.

I gave actual facts, like speaking French =/= being French. How is that irrelevant, when France is only 25% of the French speaking world?

This is based on real things and that seems irrelevant to you, right.

But you, you just shared feelings based on nothing but your own experience, and biaised statements such has "the majority of rude players are French" (above) based on nothing, so im not sure that you are the right person to decide what is relevant or not.

Anyways, ive had enough.

[Tanathya]

Snip

I also said that probably what I said is irrelevant as well. Let's stop taking only the part we're interested in discussing while ignoring the rest, shall we?

Yeah, based on my experienced it is, and I'd be lying if I didn't tell you that pretty much every FC I've been in I've always encountered a group of people that disliked them. Now, I do NOT dislike anyone based on their nationality, that'd be absurd, but these experiences aren't limited to me. Again, I'm part of a controversial community as well nationality-wise, and I try to avoid them at all costs. So I'm not biased, since I don't even have anything against the French, the Germans, the Italians, or the Americans. I can't be biased even if I wanted to; I hold nothing against any one of them.

Let me tell you though, that you implied that people whose only language is English are prone to be narrow minded, and not too smart. And that is something you did, while accusing me of doing the same even though I didn't.

I'm one of those people who try to speak to the others via whatever tool is at hand, and if I find a French/German/Japanese player who doesn't speak English, I'll do my best to communicate with them via the auto-translator. FFXI taught me that, and it's amazing to be able to play with people from around the world. You are very mistaken about me, as I pointed out more than just once.

So far, you've also been extremely rude and judgemental.

[Ultear_Milkovich]

All I said is that a ton of people here had the same theory, and you seemed to have taken it out on me for whatever reason. Also no, I'm far from being narrow minded. And yeah, it's not about numbers. Lol. In fact, none of what you said is relevant, maybe what I said isn't either, but I was talking from my experience, and my experience dictates that the majority of rude players have always been French, which doesn't mean that the majority of the French population is rude.

Ive only met ONE rude person on the forums so far and that's you.

Then I could say that the majority of rude players have always been english.

Because yes, by your logic, if you speak english = you are english, because the rest (aka other countries speaking the same language) "is irrelevant."

See. It sounds stupid doesnt it?

[Ultear_Milkovich]

Again, I'm part of a controversial community as well nationality-wise, and I try to avoid them at all costs.

"As well", which implies that French are a "controversial community" too?

Wait, since when are we a "controversial community", and what the hell is that? Did we kill somebody or...?

I'm French and i dont consider myself as being part of a "controversial community" , thanks God.

Should I?

Well you now look a bit scary to be honest. Not going to discuss this anymore, this is going worse and worse...

The controversial guy.