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    I have made two threads about Twitch streamers. And there will be more!

    The reason because i think streaming is cool. I watch streams all the time and love it. Multiple games not just FFXIV. But right now I'm into FFXIV and only PVP. So why not try and help some of these players if I enjoy what they are doing? I'm willing to put my own time into it so it shouldn't be doing anyone any harm.


    Yes practice makes perfect but also experienced people can help others progress faster. Just like any sport or art. You by a book on it and every page does not just read "Keep practicing and you'll get there" or just filled with a bunch of "common tips". I think they are amazing players for a reason and I wouldn't mind finding out why.

    Actually if people turn up to watch the interview, it will get some people interested. Even if it was just one person, it's something and you don't have to care but I would like to see more people in PVP. The more people I can get to turn up the more chance other people might randomly say "Hey whats going on over here?".


    Now obviously you don't know me but I am the guy that will go out of my way to help a random person. I'm the only guy that said "Hey Chesty don't worry it's not your fault Sch is really hard to play in PVP" When he actually was trying. (but now it seems he's just out to troll). If all my post's will always be something positive and/or something that attempts to bring the community closer. I originally came on these forums to look for tips and tricks to help my game. But 90% of what i found was arguments and people telling each other they was wrong. Now I can't change that. But i can do something that I feel will help us move in the right direction.

    Why do I think interviewing is a great idea? Because I cannot get Jammy To, Tea Pan, Straigus or any other highly experienced player to come on here and post a bunch of helpful information for us all. BUT! I can however use this as a way to get the same information to us. At the cost of me setting it up then typing it all out for all of us to read.

    You might not care and you're probably an amazing player yourself. But their are a lot more lurkers here looking for advice than you think and I plan to provide try and provide it. (I'm not sure if I explained myself well but i'm kinda rushing here... I'm hungry.)

    I haven't posted my stream but thanks for your contribution.
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    Last edited by JazzofEtro; 04-12-2016 at 03:48 PM.

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    Pretty cool idea Etro adds some nice diversity too the PvP forums instead of the usual " Please nerf x class SE" threads I see or complaining in general. Looking forward to it!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    I don't see how this is any different from interviewing people from Elysium and the likes. There was recently a three hour MogTalk just about PvP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYORPv_d-nA guess thats one big three hour circlejerk.
    See I think the big difference for me is in MogTalk's discussion it's not really focused on either player but on pvp and the feast in general. In truth, I loved the MogTalk episode but it wasn't like I went there for Joe or anything. That's what bugs me about OP's idea; it seems more focused on those particular players than on the game mode. That's the impression I get when talking about an "interview".

    And that's why I'm not really interested. I'm not interested in getting to know these people. As ironic as it may sound, I don't want to hear an interview of someone I don't already know and love. Part of me thinks that maybe the OP is just framing the idea in a weird way, but I'm not too sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    See I think the big difference for me is in MogTalk's discussion it's not really focused on either player but on pvp and the feast in general. In truth, I loved the MogTalk episode but it wasn't like I went there for Joe or anything. That's what bugs me about OP's idea; it seems more focused on those particular players than on the game mode. That's the impression I get when talking about an "interview".
    My issues is that aside from a couple, it reads like a "Who's Who of Balmung"...

    The ones listed are good, and I respect them... But diversify, please!
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    True their are a couple of really good players on cactuar, and siren that I wouldn't mind seeing involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    See I think the big difference for me is in MogTalk's discussion it's not really focused on either player but on pvp and the feast in general. In truth, I loved the MogTalk episode but it wasn't like I went there for Joe or anything. That's what bugs me about OP's idea; it seems more focused on those particular players than on the game mode. That's the impression I get when talking about an "interview".

    And that's why I'm not really interested. I'm not interested in getting to know these people. As ironic as it may sound, I don't want to hear an interview of someone I don't already know and love. Part of me thinks that maybe the OP is just framing the idea in a weird way, but I'm not too sure.
    Mutemutt, you actually make a lot of sense and I hope that is where Soren is coming from, because then I can understand why he wouldn’t be supportive. But I’m not out to harm anyone and I’m not benefiting from any of this. I gain nothing. So then I feel like I’m being accused of doing something negative, out of some suspicion that I’m gaining something from doing this. Why are our players not allow to be promoted? I’m not forcing anyone to come watch and be supportive. But I am questioning why someone would want to prevent it by making it sound like a negative idea?

    I want the forums to have helpful viable information on how to pvp for all classes but I only play AST. And I never use Noct. So can you imagine the flaming I would get if I even tried to post a AST guide? But I still want it to be here on the forum so guess what… I have to find an AST and then find a way to get them to give me all the good tips and tricks. So this is my way of doing it. Helping the community by showing other players love and appreciation, and getting that same player to give up their tips and tricks. If they have a twitch, youtube or whatever, then why not help them with that? No skin of my nose I couldn’t care less. All I want is to be able to provide the cool stuff here on the forums. How is this a bad thing for the community and for them? Am I missing something?

    I think I’m a decent player but I don’t think anyone will take my tips seriously because I don’t have much credibility. So a better way would be to take the info from someone who does. We will all see, read and use this information. What’s wrong with showing them some love too? You don’t have to, but some people it’s no skin of their nose to open up a stream and watch for a few mins. I know people get money from streaming and I think that’s f****** awesome, but I’m not asking anyone here to pay a subscription fee or donate a dime. And you will NEVER hear me say that. Not that I’m against it I have donated to a few Street Fighter streams before. But I’m not asking for that and never will.

    So why does this idea sound so bad to some of you. If was asking for money I understand that could come across as begging or something, but I’m not. I’m just saying I’d love for you all to tune in for this if you can. BTW Jammy has not asked for this, in fact all he says is “Dude. Please not live... I can’t I’m too shy” (d’aww he’s so cute). That is all he says but I’m like “naaa it will be fun!” because this stuff gets me excited.

    Some of you are against me for no good reason, I’m replying because I do want support from you all. I love this game and for the simple fact that you guys do to, I already felt connected to you like one big family. Yet here we are making something I feel is positive, sound like a bad idea. I ask for you to explain why, but the bottom line is that you think I have some scheme up my sleeve. For me to bring us closer together I can’t ignore any of you, even the ones I don’t understand or agree with.

    Sorren you think I’m being careful, but actually I’m just trying not to disrespect you in anyway while still having this debate with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzofEtro View Post

    I want the forums to have helpful viable information on how to pvp for all classes but I only play AST. And I never use Noct. So can you imagine the flaming I would get if I even tried to post a AST guide? But I still want it to be here on the forum so guess what… I have to find an AST and then find a way to get them to give me all the good tips and tricks. So this is my way of doing it. Helping the community by showing other players love and appreciation, and getting that same player to give up their tips and tricks.
    I play diurnal Astro too and put a large amount of tips and tricks on your thread but didn't even get a response T-T I need something to do while my comp is broken, plzzzz. I can't play diurnal Astro PvP so talking about it would be the next best thing T-T even if it's just "your tips are sh*t"
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    I play diurnal Astro too and put a large amount of tips and tricks on your thread but didn't even get a response T-T I need something to do while my comp is broken, plzzzz. I can't play diurnal Astro PvP so talking about it would be the next best thing T-T even if it's just "your tips are sh*t"
    LOL Sorry Nessa that I didnt reply. I didnt think people cared about that. I dont think i have to reply and say nice post "all" the time. But NICE POST. I really liked reading it, I'll go out of my way to atleast hit the "Like" button next time. You can kill me for that. ^^;

    But the point i'm trying to make is people would rather come here and tell me I'm a "Circlejerk", than post some cool tips and tricks. And that is the norm here. I mean look at this....

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...cks-requested.

    The non WHM mains have to chime in, I mean he came here to ask for HELP! Yet people give me time and energy to tell me i'm wrong, why not give time and energy to help that guy. Not only does he benefit but so will everyone else that reads. The thing is maybe people are too scared because they almost know 90% of time somone will come by and say "Errr actually you're wrong and you're an idiot. Now let me tell you why." Then before you know it we are getting banned, posts deleted and all that stuff. Now I'm not about to play police or babysit and I cannot force people to post helpful information. But I see too many people do this even the players I want to interview. Instead I thought let me just do something that I think can help us and players like that who come here for tips. If that means I have to be a "Circlejerk" to some people, so be it. (That term is so funny btw I have never heard of it up until now ^^; )

    Now before people reply here telling me how wrong I am. Atleast go reply to him and help the guy out, it would be time much better spent.
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    Last edited by JazzofEtro; 04-15-2016 at 10:37 PM.

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