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    So why is Tetragrammaton have that perticular name?

    So this might be an odd question, but I am curious what people think.

    So we know in this game that the English Team decided to make the spells go 1, 2, 3, to avoid confusion, or oddities, when the spells are vastly different in execution, like a single target or AoE. Now traditionally, Final Fantasy games have tier 1 spells being the name itself, tier 2 being the -ra suffix, and tier 3 being the -ga suffix, but their is also a 4th tier the -ja suffix, and with the expansion we got Fire 4 or Firaja and Blizzard 4 or Blizzaja.


    Now my question is, Why isn't one of the new White Mage spells Cure 4 or Curaja? Tetragrammaton just seems like the most logical of the 2 new healing spells, lol.

    Traditionally, Curaja would either heal for a very high potency or all HP. The main thing that got me thinking this was my run of Lost City HM today, It finally clicked that the final boss casts Cure 4, so why not us?

    There is nothing wrong with the name, just felt odd to me.
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    Tetragrammaton refers to a 4-letter word. I'll let you interpret that one for yourself

    But on a slightly more serious note it usually refers to Yahweh, which if I'm not mistaken is the Jewish word for God and encompasses a lot of holy things, like benediction but on a smaller scale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryn_Lastrov View Post
    Tetragrammaton refers to a 4-letter word. I'll let you interpret that one for yourself

    But on a slightly more serious note it usually refers to Yahweh, which if I'm not mistaken is the Jewish word for God and encompasses a lot of holy things, like benediction but on a smaller scale
    http://www.eliyah.com/tetragrm.html
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    I recall an interview, though I can't recall if it was a general event or a PLL, where they discussed the naming conventions and how they considered the traditional suffix-based naming but ultimately chose to use numbers instead, so as to make the game more accessible to non-FF lifers. You and I know Fire<Fira<Firaga<Firaja, but someone who's only ever played WoW or TOR would take a minute to figure that out. But for the Japanese, they got Cure, Cura, Curaga.

    Interestingly enough, the HW WHM abilities are actually named the same in JP and EN. Asylum, Assize, and Tetragrammatron aren't just NA/EU localizations of traditionally-named abilities.
    (You can look up Job Quests > White Mage on the Lodestone and then change the subdomain of the URL from na.finalfantasyxiv to jp.finalfantasyxiv to compare, if you feel so inclined and can read kana).

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    The main thing that got me thinking this was my run of Lost City HM today, It finally clicked that the final boss casts Cure 4, so why not us?
    One of the things about Lost City is that it demonstrates what was discussed earlier in
    the WHM questline, where the padjal doesn't want to accept you as a WHM because he thinks you'll just abuse White Magic. I don't recall off the top of my head how long it's been, but the abuse of White Magic that lead to the fall of Amdapor was at least long enough ago that your typical CNJ doesn't recognize the existence of anything after Cura/Cure2, and certainly you can see how even spells that we as modern WHMs are familiar with have changed since then. The Amdapori Regen, for example, looks nothing like what we would call Regen. While I can't speak for the lore team or anyone who actually worked on the game, it makes sense that the de-/re- evolution of White Magic over the years could easily explain changes in names and such. A WHM of our day, not necessarily privy to the attack names we players see in combat, might go into Kuribu's chamber and call what he sees "Asylum" instead of "Regen". Unless he was some sort of Historical Magickalist or some academic profession that came with an understanding of how time affects magical theories and repertoires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    I recall an interview, though I can't recall if it was a general event or a PLL, where they discussed the naming conventions and how they considered the traditional suffix-based naming but ultimately chose to use numbers instead, so as to make the game more accessible to non-FF lifers. You and I know Fire<Fira<Firaga<Firaja, but someone who's only ever played WoW or TOR would take a minute to figure that out. But for the Japanese, they got Cure, Cura, Curaga.
    sure, i can't even remember how i figured that out in the first FF i have played....... whatever, in german we don't have the numbers. it's Feuer > Feura > Feuga > Feuka for Fire and Vita > Vitra > Vitaga for Cure... i think in the beta the spells had the numbers but they changed it on release c.c,,

    i find it interesting that the german names are usually Vita > Vitra > Vigra and not Vita > Vitra > Vitaga. but Vitaga is in english Cure 3. But Cure 3 does not even work like the next step after Cure 2. Cure 3 is a whole different spell. and so is Tetra. Tetra is NOT Cure 4. Cure 4 should be a spell with a way higher potency than Cure 2 and not an instant off-gcd. and Cure 4 should be Cure 3. and the spell wich is now Cure 3 should have a different name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
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    Agreed 100%. Even various ingame sources highlight the differences. The white magic wielded by the Padjali today is but a fraction of the power of the white magic wielded by the Amdapori. The magics of eld were frightening, enough that the elementals recognized how devastating they would be (the silly war was the final nail in the coffin). Ancient black magic was so strong, a single spell could raze an entire city. Ancient white magic was so strong, mages could manipulate time and even the very fabric of existence (almost reaching true immortality).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post

    i find it interesting that the german names are usually Vita > Vitra > Vigra and not Vita > Vitra > Vitaga...
    I thought you wrote viagra. That's one way to raise a party members vitality.
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    I think my question got a little lost, probably my fault after rereading it it does seem a bit ambiguous.

    My question is simply, does is seem odd that WHM didn't get a Cure 4?

    I was just trying to say that Tetra could of been named Cure 4, and pointed out English localization of the spells as a reason it could of been Cure 4; because the spells dont match the traditional tier list.

    I know what Tetragrammaton means, and that it has the same name in Japanese. And I know about the tier list change. So responses to this aren't needed.


    Plus I realize I messed up the title name and changed my sentence midway so the "is" makes no sense and should be does, lol
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    Last edited by Eloah; 04-03-2016 at 12:25 AM.
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    Well we've only had one expansion.

    Cure IV could come in 4.0 for all we know.
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