Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
I can imagine mutilating to remove a a couple horns, I can't imagine mutilating to change the shape and position..

They really aren't... Just look at this;




The horn shape and position there is completely different from 6... I'm not sure what else I can say, we're just going to have to agree to disagree at this point... Bahamuts horns are not remotely close to as curvy as 6s and they certainly don't go anywhere near his face like 6s... At this point I'm likely to just completely disregard the minion because it's a minion... It doesn't even have claws on its hands, it is so far from a proper depiction that I really don't think it can be used here... Even the minions horns don't come remotely close to being in the same position as 6s, though... Both the Primal and the minion have horns that grow back, while 6 has horns that grew forward then curved back, that is a major difference and I'm not sure how I can make this any clearer...
My logic:
- The shape of the horns shown on 6 and the variations of Bahamut are the same
- The face, eyes and colouring is the same
- Alterations to the shape of the body and generally less "dragonish" look to Primal Bahamut are down to it being a reincarnated version brought back by the Ascians.

Your logic:
- BUT THE HORN ISN'T IN THE SAME PLACE!!!
- 4 HAS THIS THING ON ITS WING HALF THE OTHER DRAGONS DO

If you're flat out denying what's in front of you, I can do nothing but recommend an optician. The minion is valid evidence because even if it's a super-deformed chibi version, it's still a depiction of Bahamut and retains its basic features. Its and 6's horns are the same no matter how you try to twist it, and at the very least they are far more similar than 4 and the minion's.

Which means nothing... If you want to use that line of argument to explain away any differences between Bahamut and 6, you're aware I can do the exact same thing in relation to 4, right?

Again, the biggest issue here is the angle. We're viewing 4 from above and as such we cannot adequately judge his horns. We can clearly judge 6s horns though, and they curve over his face, completely unlike Bahamuts. Meanwhile what we can tell from 4s horns is that they go back along his head, like Bahamuts...
I'm using Tiamat's words as an explanation for a bulkier body and set back horn placement. You're trying to use it to explain an entirely different dragon.

We can 4's judge horns, because its horns are on the side of its face. No in game depiction of Bahamut has this. Its horns are nothing like Bahamut's in placement or appearance.