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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Susubi Subi
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    Its april 2016 yet no healer stat weights???

    As u all may know that its april 2016 and yet there is still no stat weights for healers

    If u go by ariyala that stat weight is from 2.x and is wrong

    So im looking for theorycrafters to go out and find these weights for each healer so it helps new players and old players to finally have a piece of mind as they will know which stat is better for there job without trying and error or consently doing melds over and over

    So please if anyone is out there please solve this issue it will help the healer community imensely

    We need weights for

    Sch
    Ast
    Whm

    Thanks in advance
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    Yayadon Yadon
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Stat weights for healers don't even make much sense in the first place, since healers aren't exactly about raw numbers or average output. It's all situational & depends on the fight, and is somewhat dependent on your playstyle. Beyond general recommendations - such as stacking Crit on a SCH or melding Accuracy on healers in general - it's not really feasible (or even worth it) to assign exact weights to secondaries for healers, in my opinion. Every healer will have their personal BiS set, and you'll have to put in some thought about it yourself instead of just relying on some numbers from the internet.
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    Mimiji Miji
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    What I see most people do is Crit > Det > SS > Pie.
    Your main "goal" is to get Pie and SS to a point where you're comfortable and then max out Crit and Det.
    Accuracy is good if you are planning to DPS a lot, especially in Savage and EX.
    I've also heard of people putting VIT on their Accessories for when they are still trying to clear stuff.
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    This is not what im asking for.... Im asking for a weight for each stat for a healer just to make life easyier i dont want this

    "I seen healer stack x"
    "Stats dont matter"
    "Stack what u feel comfortable"

    Im seeking stat weights for each healer so i know which is more benefical per point rather then stack mindlessly if i want to reach comfortable numbers for my own BiS i would need to know what each stat weight gives towards my job

    For example crit is good for scholar due to shields

    The reason im asking for this so i can soft or hardcap my stats for example say i was 15% crit but no higher... I would need to know how much crit i would need to reach that cap ... Or a certain det % for weapon damage on spells
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    Susubi Subi
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    On mobile so cannot edit post

    This game frustrates me when it comes to stats as its all just numbers and not percentages which makes players like myself have a hard time finding what each values are giving me...

    Without parser or atc i cannot find what my values are at especially as a ps4 user..... I wish SE would change all the values into percentages so we will know these

    What our crit chance is
    Our determination damage/healing increase
    What crit damage increase we getting
    Our speed increase
    How much damage speed gives to dots/hots

    But nope we got numbers like 578 speed... Which in the eyes of players means nothing and required to find outside sources to grasp a slight understanding what each value gives... Which is annoying
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post

    The reason im asking for this so i can soft or hardcap my stats for example say i was 15% crit but no higher... I would need to know how much crit i would need to reach that cap ... Or a certain det % for weapon damage on spells
    That is not what stat weight are about in this game and is why you have been given the response you have. Soft and hard caps dont really exist (well if they do they can not be reached).

    SCH gets benefits from crit, and the way this game functions is to stack as much crit as humanly possible. Its not the case of get to x quantity and then stop. The only stat in the game that works like that is accuracy.

    Determination boosts your healing and damage output very very slightly per point. There is no obtainable hardcap on this stat. If you like determination, you stack it until you are blue in the face.

    Also with the change in how crit functions, you never ever ever want to stop stacking it if thats the stat you are going for.
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I would like the character sheet to be reworked on so when i hold iver the values it gives me % of what im getting this will allow me to go for caps like

    30% spell speed
    5% dot /hot increase
    10% crit
    15% healing increase
    5% crit damage
    8% hit chance

    This is sooo much easyier to read then seeing this

    765 spell speed
    454 crit
    665 detemination
    433 accuracy

    When i see this it means nothing and just mumbo jumbo and it frustrates me as i cannot see what im getting with each stat upgrade and how it is helping me
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    That is not what stat weight are about in this game and is why you have been given the response you have. Soft and hard caps dont really exist (well if they do they can not be reached).
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    Yes which goes back to my main point... Everyone is mindlessly stacking a stat without knowing what it gives in return... Iv been playing this game aince early access... And still this is not changed.....may aswell just not bother with optimising urself in ur own way if its like this....just slap any gear with any meld and thats it >.>
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    Rhiki Sylva
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 90
    It's not like you have much choice in secondaries on i240 gear. Since there's like a total of 4 i240 pieces that don't have PIE (both midas and lore).

    I don't have any weights, but you can be pretty sure it's similar to all other classes (from a dps perspective): crit > det > ss. Obviously meld as much accuracy as you need/can.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Why do you need some third-party opinion? Stats are so straight forward in this game (and there's so few of them) it's very weird to me that anyone can't figure it out for themselves.

    The only one anyone might get confused about is AST due to it playing so differently between the two stances, but all stats are good on that one as far as I'm aware.
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