Thread: [DEV Request] Patch 3.3 Can we please keep more dungeons in Expert Roulette?

I don't know if I'm alone, but it would be great if we could keep AntiTower and Lost City Hard in the Expert Roulette for 3.3 along with the two new dungeons giving Expert a roulette of 4 dungeons going forward. Then with 3.4 they (AntiTower and Lost City Hard) would drop down into the 60 roulette.

This would give the expert roulette four dungeons rather then just the two new dungeons with each patch.

Anyway, I don't know if everyone wants this, as people might be really tired of running the new ones that they don't want the chance to hit them, and just skip the 60s...

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Why not do a SUPER Expert roulette that can put you into any dungeon in the game, that would be a roulette! not the 1-2 usual exp dungeon

Originally Posted by Nekodar

You mean like Mentor Roulette, without requiring Mentor?

Yeah, i guess , im not a mentor so i didn't know but yeah

Originally Posted by Claymore65

Or they could just replace "Expert Roulette" with "Level 60 Roulette" entirely. Problem solved. Instead of burning yourself out on two specific dungeons, you'd have 6 or so in your roulette. It would be a really simple change that would reduce burnout significantly.

I'm sure someone would complain about disproportionate rewards/difficulty, though I guess you could see an ilvl cap on each dungeon to compensate for that.

Originally Posted by Duelle

I'm sure someone would complain about disproportionate rewards/difficulty, though I guess you could see an ilvl cap on each dungeon to compensate for that.

Nothing would be disproportionate if all the dungeons in the relative roulette were relative to each other. The way it is now, there is nothing "expert" about the two dungeons. If expert entailed the level 60 dungeons, but kept it at say, min-ilvl, it'd be a proper challenge with appropriate rewards.

Originally Posted by Thayos

The last two bosses in the new Ampador dungeon are just... laughable. The final boss' big move is to... cure himself a little bit. ???? What's the point even?

The undertuning of mechanics are also what bothers me. Even to put it in perspective, cure III on that boss only heals them for about 3% if it actually goes off...mind you that this boss already has less hp than a typical boss to offset the fact they have 2 raises.

Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Nothing would be disproportionate if all the dungeons in the relative roulette were relative to each other.

I'm talking about specific dungeon "level". Neverreap is not on the same level as Antitower, for example. If we were to unify the roulettes, you'd be getting the same reward for Neverreap as you would for Antitower. So you'd have i230 players plowing Neverreap into the ground if they get that via roulette while they'd do Antitower at the expected pace The reward could still be 35 Lore + some esoteric tomes, but because of the way both dungeons are tuned it'd make the reward feel disproportionate.

This is why I mentioned one way to do it is to enforce ilevel caps if they were to unify the roulettes. Set the DF algorythm to take player ilevel while measuring it against the required ilevel for dungeons and go from there.

Originally Posted by Thayos

The last two bosses in the new Ampador dungeon are just... laughable. The final boss' big move is to... cure himself a little bit. ???? What's the point even?

That's likely to hammer on the fact that Amdapor is all about that white magic, yo. Specially that last boss seems like a not-so-subtle preview of what WHMs might be getting going into 4.0. If they don't get Reverse at the very least, I'll be honestly surprised...even if it throws my Mystic suggestion out the window. :/