So... Where exactly are HP recovery reductions meant to be used?

[Cabalabob]

Miasma, storm's eye and dancing edge reduce hp recovery... But not in pvp. Where exactly in pve is there a monster that heals itself?... I can think of about 2 instances where this happens and in neither instance does having this ability make a noticeable difference, that one guildhest and the last boss of lost city hard. Why not just remove the hp recovery reduction altogether? If it's not going to work in pvp there's no point in it existing. Why not just make one ilm punch not work in pvp while you're at it? Let's make that even more useless too! Yay for removing haukke bosses stoneskin...

[Jamillion]

Miasma, storm's eye and dancing edge reduce hp recovery... But not in pvp. Where exactly in pve is there a monster that heals itself?... I can think of about 2 instances where this happens and in neither instance does having this ability make a noticeable difference, that one guildhest and the last boss of lost city hard. Why not just remove the hp recovery reduction altogether? If it's not going to work in pvp there's no point in it existing. Why not just make one ilm punch not work in pvp while you're at it? Let's make that even more useless too! Yay for removing haukke bosses stoneskin...

It works on all heals, not just self heals. Just throwing that out there.

[Shurrikhan]

Lost City HM is about the only relevant content you'll see it affect, and the advantages even there are minimal to unnoticeable. If I recall correctly Storm's Eye used to be a 50% reduction, at which point it was actually pretty decent in... some FATE I can no longer remember, or versus silly open world mobs that would attempt to self-heal for a third of their health.

[Mutemutt]

Doesn't miasma's malady still reduce healing? I don't remember seeing that changed. There's a number of enemies that heal and get healed though it's not like I've ever tested if it actually reduces the healing in those cases or if that portion of the slashing debuff moves is ignored ( like, I'm pretty sure the a5s boss can get a regen from the green elixir, but no idea if you can actually reduce the amount). I admit that I am a little sad that they removed that bit from pvp for war and nin but on the other hand they both get the benefit of more damage on that debuffed target and there's still misama for the heal debuff.

[Cherub]

Those life crushing questions,
Why is morale even existing?
Why does pvp materia even exist?
We'll never know.

[JazzofEtro]

Equipped PVP materia enhances your sundrop dance in PVP instances.

I'm face palming that you guys didn't know this. Bunch of scrubs...

[Cherub]

Equipped PVP materia enhances your sundrop dance in PVP instances.

I'm face palming that you guys didn't know this. Bunch of scrubs...

Yea cuz a good pvper uses sundrop over mandervilledance with a heavenscracker up lolololol git gud.

[JazzofEtro]

Yea cuz a good pvper uses sundrop over mandervilledance with a heavenscracker up lolololol git gud.

Damn... That's some serious PVP.

[RiceisNice]

It works on all heals, not just self heals. Just throwing that out there.

It only affects healing magic. To my knowledge, it has no affect on abilities, which includes all forms of self healing, tetra, lustrate and essential dignity.

Which kind of leaves the quesiton on what they wanted to address with the change. It takes away from the weakness of specific healers, but more important, something that a ninja had over their peers.

[Jamillion]

It only affects healing magic. To my knowledge, it has no affect on abilities, which includes all forms of self healing, tetra, lustrate and essential dignity.

Which kind of leaves the quesiton on what they wanted to address with the change. It takes away from the weakness of specific healers, but more important, something that a ninja had over their peers.

Yep, I stand corrected. Makes sense now that I think about it, defiance and other skills work similarly.