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  1. #11
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    Petori's Avatar
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    Livi Fi
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Yup, and someone said soloing is dead. Company leve + behest is the way to go for casual soloer like me. I can't answer for your question since I haven't leveled any DoW since patch.
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    Last edited by Petori; 10-25-2011 at 09:38 PM. Reason: typo

  2. #12
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    MariyaShidou's Avatar
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    The TP degradation has been lowered a lot, and Ancient Magic/Shadowsear both has freak CD (Chainspell also has loooooooooong CD). Plus you aint supposed to have AM/SS at lvl 32 :< It's more that THM has lol easy range for AoE with CNJ has decent range for AoE, while DoW require a lot more positioning to AoE. This is the main reason why in Stronghold party, MRD is the nuker of the year choice, because mobs just keeping coming at you instead of you coming at mobs.
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  3. #13
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    Doctor Mog
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 51
    The REAL issue is that crafting is still AT BEST 20k an hour.

    Why does DoW/DoM/DoL get to triple that on average?
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  4. #14
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    The REAL issue is that crafting is still AT BEST 20k an hour.

    Why does DoW/DoM/DoL get to triple that on average?
    Because everyone is already lvl 50 all craft.

    Is it?
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    The TP degradation has been lowered a lot, and Ancient Magic/Shadowsear both has freak CD (Chainspell also has loooooooooong CD). Plus you aint supposed to have AM/SS at lvl 32 :< It's more that THM has lol easy range for AoE with CNJ has decent range for AoE, while DoW require a lot more positioning to AoE. This is the main reason why in Stronghold party, MRD is the nuker of the year choice, because mobs just keeping coming at you instead of you coming at mobs.
    Trust me, it's just as easy on Conjurer to employ the same strategy.
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  6. #16
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    Colino Nyea
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    Omega
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    The reason is that DoW are dependant on building TP, mages have instant access to spells, buffs > Chainspell > ancient magic x 2 you can't beat that really for burst damage.
    That's true at the start of fights, but by the time you attack a bunch of mobs to get them linked, you most likely have 3k TP already.
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  7. #17
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    how the hell do you people get so much SP soloing? Unless you're PLing or some crap. 80k? soloing? wtf? how, lol?
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  8. #18
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    Aaran Oni
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Don't get how people say they make so much EXP on DOW. Unless they talk about groups or if all DOW aren't equal, i don't get it. My GLD can kill mobs his own level or a bit higher but it takes forever and then i need to rest if it was a mob 2 lvl higher then me. I could never make 80k/h .... no way.

    Is it the same for all GLD or is there something wrong with mine? Maybe other DOW actually play better since 1.19, i heard MRD did but never tried...
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  9. #19
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    Fated Erskine
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 80
    People inflating numbers, happens all the time.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fated View Post
    People inflating numbers, happens all the time.
    I have 3 DoW classes in the low 30's and I can tell you for a fact that even 30k an hour solo is a big fat lie.
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