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    Shneibel's Avatar
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    First off, this isn't a complaint thread - I just want to know why DoW can't get comparable EXP/hr. I'm currently Lv32 THM, and at Wandering Wight camp in Mun Tuy, I can bottleneck/deaggro/AoE these mobs into oblivion. I've been using this same method of solo since Lv20. Of course, with DoW that number is at the very most halved, or in this case, divided by 7 as the highest chain I'm able to manage here.

    Why can't we get AoE spells/nukes on DoW?
    ask your stat if it allow you to land those effective first
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    Jinko Jinko
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    The reason is that DoW are dependant on building TP, mages have instant access to spells, buffs > Chainspell > ancient magic x 2 you can't beat that really for burst damage.
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    Colino Nyea
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    The reason is that DoW are dependant on building TP, mages have instant access to spells, buffs > Chainspell > ancient magic x 2 you can't beat that really for burst damage.
    That's true at the start of fights, but by the time you attack a bunch of mobs to get them linked, you most likely have 3k TP already.
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    Livi Fi
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    Yup, and someone said soloing is dead. Company leve + behest is the way to go for casual soloer like me. I can't answer for your question since I haven't leveled any DoW since patch.
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    Last edited by Petori; 10-25-2011 at 09:38 PM. Reason: typo

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    Mariya Shidou
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    The TP degradation has been lowered a lot, and Ancient Magic/Shadowsear both has freak CD (Chainspell also has loooooooooong CD). Plus you aint supposed to have AM/SS at lvl 32 :< It's more that THM has lol easy range for AoE with CNJ has decent range for AoE, while DoW require a lot more positioning to AoE. This is the main reason why in Stronghold party, MRD is the nuker of the year choice, because mobs just keeping coming at you instead of you coming at mobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    The TP degradation has been lowered a lot, and Ancient Magic/Shadowsear both has freak CD (Chainspell also has loooooooooong CD). Plus you aint supposed to have AM/SS at lvl 32 :< It's more that THM has lol easy range for AoE with CNJ has decent range for AoE, while DoW require a lot more positioning to AoE. This is the main reason why in Stronghold party, MRD is the nuker of the year choice, because mobs just keeping coming at you instead of you coming at mobs.
    Trust me, it's just as easy on Conjurer to employ the same strategy.
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    Doctor Mog
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    The REAL issue is that crafting is still AT BEST 20k an hour.

    Why does DoW/DoM/DoL get to triple that on average?
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    The REAL issue is that crafting is still AT BEST 20k an hour.

    Why does DoW/DoM/DoL get to triple that on average?
    Because everyone is already lvl 50 all craft.

    Is it?
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    The REAL issue is that crafting is still AT BEST 20k an hour.

    Why does DoW/DoM/DoL get to triple that on average?
    because you dont run the risk of dieing as a DoH?
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    Aedan Yarborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    because you dont run the risk of dieing as a DoH?
    True, but my gil purse has been dying ever since the update. Does that count?

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