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  1. #1
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    Bigcat9715's Avatar
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90

    So, what's with the lack of Machinist in DF?

    I haven't really noticed it until recently that I rarely see a machinist in my party. Has the machinist users just simply switch to PF or FC for their dungeon running fun or have they cease to exist outside of Idyllshire? I ask this because 1. I just noticed it and 2. I started leveling my own Machinist. The Dps I normally see are in this order:

    -Dragoons
    -Bards
    -Ninjas
    -Scholars (yes, it's a dps job. The Fairy is the real healer. :P)
    -Black Mages
    -Monks
    -Summoners
    -Machinists
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    Last edited by Bigcat9715; 04-05-2016 at 11:43 PM.

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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    well the trouble is the dps of the machinist are quite random in comparaison of some other class, means is not as fun than other to play.
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    16bitBounty's Avatar
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    Alyssin Kiger
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Machinists are convoluted and aside from the aesthetical aspect of fighting with a rifle they're pretty boring.
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    Cloe Delisle
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    I started leveling my own Machinist. The Dps I normal see are in this order:
    Well, the game actually matches ranged DPS with melee DPS, so you'll see Dragoons and Ninjas the most when on your machinist. Monks aren't as popular by a big margin.
    So next, you're going to see Bards, Black Mages and Summoners, because those classes are very popular, despite being the same "type" (ranged DPS -- For normal Duty Finder, the game doesn't distinguish Caster and Physical ranged DPS) as you.
    Finally, since the game rarely pairs two people of the same class, you'll see Machinist the least.
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    Brill_'s Avatar
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    Squires Ailith
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    2 words, gauss barrel. I loved that class until they gave us gauss barrel. I've had a lot of fun playing it in Crystal tower this past week.
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Docent View Post
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    Really? I never knew that. I always thought the game just threw me and 3 other people into a dungeon, then told us to have at it. Also, I just started machinist, I just made it to lvl 48. I'm dreading the climb to lvl 60, but after this I will have all of the range dps and healers maxed out at 60.
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    There is a lesser amount of the newer jobs in general. Recently since 3.2 and the MCH buff to their DPS and Hyperchage, it has become a more desirable job in the raiding scene. I have seen some once BRD's switch over. It mostly depends on your setup.
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    Character
    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I've recently leveled MCH to 58 and I've been having a blast with, though I can understand the difficulty in optimizing the role too. It feels like the opening APM required is pretty nutty and then you're at the mercy of RNG later on to deal actual damage which can be off putting. I have no issue with Gauss Barrel personally since it seems to fit the class dynamic though I can understand the mechanical complaints and aesthetic complaints of it. Combine all those together and that's probably why there seems to be a lack of MCH.

    With that being said, it's most certainly not a power level concern. Every single A8S kill video I've seen (After a quick search in YouTube) ran MCH. That could also be attributed to group composition and raid/party synergy but it still speaks of a power level that MCH currently has.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 04-06-2016 at 12:37 AM.

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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    I unfortunately see Machinists all the time :\
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    If I que as a tank and see 2 machinists or 2 bards I usually leave the group and try again in 30 minutes depending on how fast they kill the first encounter.
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