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    Try and talk you way out of this lore team challenge!

    So just realised the component of the draconian pots include dragon blood.
    The recipe is:
    1x Abalathian rock salt
    2x Dragon blood
    2x Furymint
    2x Random herb depending on pot
    1x Duskborne aethersand.
    Making us essentially drink Spiced dragon blood. And its not like we drink an insignificant amount. we drink 2 whole vials of dragon blood per pot and its the only liquid component making the potion truly spiced dragon blood. Now we all know in lore that anyone who consumes a decent amount of dragon blood has the ability to turn into an actual dragon and is cast as a heretic in ishgard. Making our strong bond with ishgard at the moment really sketchy. So my biggest question is: when will we get the ability to turn into a dragon? Or will you accept the challenge and make up a reason that negates my theory...?

    Also the fact that we literally have to commit heresy to defeat the illuminati...

    Enjoy~
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    Well, the Furymint, an herb that resembles real life Spearmint could have some aetheric essence of Halone in it, which neutralizes the corrupting influence of dragon blood. The salt could also taint the blood in some way, or the aethersand acts as a purifier. And, at the very least, the processing, be it heating or distilling, likely destroys whatever component in dragon blood that corrupts people.

    Also, minor spoilers:

    Rielle from the DRK story line, has dragon blood in her body that she was forcefully fed by her captors at her mother's will so her mother would have a reason to kill her child in a positive light to the papacy. And beyond an above average aptitude for conjury, Rielle shows no signs of corruption.
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    Your lore is wrong. Very wrong.

    Only the descendants of the original twelve Knights (who consumed the Dragon whose name I can't spell) transform with specially prepared Dragon blood.

    Just drinking a random dragons blood won't transform an these people either.
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    Only those of Ishgardian origin can become dragons after drinking of dragon blood (and a specifically prepared dragon blood, mind you), because only them descended from one of the Knights Twelve (they gained this ability, and thus all their descendents, because they gouged on Ratatoskr's eyes). Given that our character is not an Ishgardian, we don't have the ability of transforming, even when drinking dragon blood, so I believe it's quite safe (although heretic) to do so.
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    Well, to be fair, if you read the descriptions for pretty much all the 'vials of xxxxblood' items, most actually aren't even confirmed to be even be what they say on the tin (voidsent blood specifically is noted like this). So, whose to say it is even dragon blood? It could be tomato sauce for all you know...

    I'm sorry.... I couldn't help but reference Duckula there.

    Seriously though, as the others above have stated, the 'drink dragon blood and turn into a dragon' only affects those who are native-born Ishgardian - that is, they trace their ancestry back to King Thordan and the Knights Twelve, because after consuming Rattoskr's eyes they ended up infused with her essence, something which they then passed down through the generations to their offspring. A native-born Ishgardian who then drinks dragon blood then painfully mutates into a dragon - the dragon blood seemingly 'activating' the dormant dragon essence/genes/<insert-technobabble-of-choice-here> within them. Anyone else though probably wouldn't experience anything more severe other than mild poisoning I'd imagine (or at least an upset stomach).

    Note this is also the reason why the player as an Azure Dragoon easily resisted Nidhogg's influence through the Eye during the original DRG Job quest storyline as if it was nothing, where as Estinen wasn't so lucky (to say nothing of the Echo and the Blessing of Light also providing added protection). He's native born Ishgardian where as the player canonically is not.

    So yeah, unless Ferne and the rest of the writing and lore teams have some surprises in store, I don't think the player has anything to worry about.
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    So... I found this in Reddit.

    Q: Are there any rules that determine the appearance of an Ishgardian who transforms into a dragon?
    It is determined by the strength of the presence of the dragon’s blood within them. Diresaur (JP: Were-Dragon) is the strongest, followed by Syricta and then Aevis.
    In addition, while they say that Ishgardians will transform upon drinking “dragon blood”, it actually has to be “blood imbued with magical power” in order for anything to happen. Therefore, “Draconian Potions” made with the item “Dragon Blood” are safe to drink.
    As long as you stick to the recommended dosages you’ll be fine, so players whose characters are meant to be of Ishgardian descent can use draconian potions without worry.
    Source: some QA I don't really remember.
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    Dammit, didn't know about the ishgardian descent things. and i do try to read every single line of text in the game qq. Shame, saw something funny coming up. Thought i had them cornered there but damn they are good hahaha.
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    Though the idea of having tranformation potions to turn you into the infamous pot in dark souls would be awesome.
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    Koujiro is correct; only blood poured specifically for that purpose will have any effect. If it's not imbued with the magicks, it's not going to change anyone. The source is a Dengeki Playstation article, one of a few about dungeon design; I did my own translation and it was pretty much the same wording, even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koujiro View Post
    Only those of Ishgardian origin can become dragons after drinking of dragon blood (and a specifically prepared dragon blood, mind you), because only them descended from one of the Knights Twelve (they gained this ability, and thus all their descendents, because they gouged on Ratatoskr's eyes). Given that our character is not an Ishgardian, we don't have the ability of transforming, even when drinking dragon blood, so I believe it's quite safe (although heretic) to do so.
    Now here's something interesting. Just how long did Nidhogg wait to get his revenge on the knights and King Thordan? We know that there were only four survivors from among the Knights Twelve, and presumably only offspring produced AFTER consuming Ratotskr's eyes would be imbued with dragon essence, right?

    So, either all the Ishgardians are descendents of those four knights, or Nidhogg gave the King and the Twelve plenty of time to pump out some kids before going medieval on them...
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