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    When you have a significant gravitational pull suddenly encompass your planetary mass instead, you can expect some weather changes to be the least of your issues.
    One could derive that Corethas was chilly before Dalamud was placed up there, and it's returned to it's natural state after many thousands of years.

    I don't expect us to be seeing the greenlands anymore there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    When you have a significant gravitational pull suddenly encompass your planetary mass instead, you can expect some weather changes to be the least of your issues.
    On that note, I'm surprised we haven't heard of any further reaching effects of Dalamud's fall. A moon fell within the atmosphere before exploding into a billion pieces and ceasing to exist. If the gravitational pull of the moon and the sun dictate the tides of the planet, why did we not hear of any crazy tsunamis or similar disasters? Strictly speaking, a large portion of Limsa should have undergone dramatic changes as well (aside from the apparent shrapnel damage), not to mention what ever catastrophes occurred across the sea. I feel for whatever island nations might be on Hydaelyn, because they would have probably been utterly destroyed and drowned as a result of such an event ... which would have made for a pretty cool dungeon or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
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    Aside from such consequences usually not glossed over/not thought of in much of fiction, the reasoning for why it isn't as bad as it should be is probably Allagan related. They put the thing up there, wouldn't surprise me if the reasoning goes that (with the help of the Crystal Tower) they were able to minimize the effect of the planet suddenly having two moons instead of one and its return ultimately ended up being less damaging as far as climate goes because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    On that note, I'm surprised we haven't heard of any further reaching effects of Dalamud's fall.
    I think part of that goes back to something I mentioned in another thread - I think part of the event was essentially a redistribution of the massive amounts of aether in play following Louisoix's attempt at resealing Bahamut and his subsequent actions as Phoenix.

    There are references to the land being healed, at least partially, as well as changed in unexpected ways...which could certainly be attributed to aether being poured back into the land.

    Also, Dalamud was very much the lesser moon - it's large, but it's more like a large asteroid (you could probably extrapolate a rough estimate of the size via Bahamut's hand from T5, actually...I've heard someone did and put Bahamut at around 1.9km tall, which puts Dalamud between 5km and 10km in diameter...our own moon is 3,474km in diameter, for reference) than a full fledged moon...and since Eorzea's main big moon is still in the sky, I'd bet that's why you didn't hear much in the way of the expected natural disasters that would of course follow such a moon descending and then disappearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    On that note, I'm surprised we haven't heard of any further reaching effects of Dalamud's fall. A moon fell within the atmosphere before exploding into a billion pieces and ceasing to exist. If the gravitational pull of the moon and the sun dictate the tides of the planet, why did we not hear of any crazy tsunamis or similar disasters? Strictly speaking, a large portion of Limsa should have undergone dramatic changes as well (aside from the apparent shrapnel damage), not to mention what ever catastrophes occurred across the sea. I feel for whatever island nations might be on Hydaelyn, because they would have probably been utterly destroyed and drowned as a result of such an event ... which would have made for a pretty cool dungeon or something.
    Lower La Noscea was ravaged by a tsumani, which is why they had to build a bridge to reconnect Gods' Grip to Vylbrand. Not to mention the rift along the Nym River in Middle La Noscea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    When you have a significant gravitational pull suddenly encompass your planetary mass instead, you can expect some weather changes to be the least of your issues.
    One could derive that Corethas was chilly before Dalamud was placed up there, and it's returned to it's natural state after many thousands of years.

    I don't expect us to be seeing the greenlands anymore there.
    I always thought Coerthas was meant to be a mirror of the Scottish highlands. Freezing and plenty of snow in winter, with cooler, moderate temperatures the rest of the year.
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    It's logical to assume that at some point it will thaw and return to "normal" but the question is "on what timeline?" After any natural disaster on the magnitude of Dalamud, one would expect some temporary climate changes, but the scale of those changes can vary from a few years to millennia.

    That said, what we have here is essentially a meteor that fell out of the sky. In our universe, when that happens, large amounts of dust are thrown into the atmosphere and blocks/refracts sunlight and heat causing a slight cooling (as we've seen in Coerthas).

    Alternatively, volcanic eruptions release massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere and cause a global heating effect. Since indications are that the volcano separating La Noscea and O'Ghomoro is about to erupt, I would guess that when that finally goes, (just before release of 5.0?) we can expect to see Coerthas thaw.

    ... of course that assumes that Hydaelyn/Square-Enix follow the same physics we have on Earth.
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    I'll second King, here. Coerthas in 1.0 seemed to me more like a snowless tundra than anything rather than sweeping, warm plains. The snow is actually more likely an imbalance of water aether that is freezing once it hits the already-frigid temperatures. Or, rather, a re-balancing of water aether that was disrupted by Dalamud and the Crystal Tower. I'd wager that Coerthas was always cold, and even colder pre-Allagan meddling.

    That being said, though, I dearly, dearly miss 1.0 Coerthas. Those bleak plains were some of my favorite for exploring (inb4 THEY ALL LOOKED THE SAME LOLOLOL).
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    I could see that Ishgard might do like a reclamation project - Look at the abandoned fortress north of town. I could see a new dungeon crawl where they're trying to clean it up much like The Lost City of Andapor(HM) and Gridania's efforts to reclaim it - It's a tactical stronghold and could be pivotal in dealing with a Garlean attack.

    There's also something that's been bugging me - there's a large ship frozen in the middle of the lake - The North Star, and what bothers me is that it's just... sitting there, all immaculate and frozen in the lake. I could see them trying to either reclaim it or turn it into some kind of raid or new dungeon. Could be some time-lost precious cargo and the ship happens to be carrying it, only to find that something else lurks below the levels of the ship.

    Or they might SOMEHOW breathe life into the lake once more, but somehow keep the snowy tundra intact.
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    You need to remember as well that Dalamud was incredibly small. We couldn't even see it in the sky until they pointed it out to us. So like Celie said there is no way it could have had any effect on magnetism or weather. I think it would be safe to think of it more like a weather or communications satellite in the way it would effect the atmosphere

    Here is a reference for how we saw Dalamud through the stages of v1, as you can see it was small and waaaay out there.

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