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  1. #81
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    JisKing98's Avatar
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    Ul-Dah
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    Yasuo Theunforgiven
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    This may sound elitist-like, but if im dpsing as a melee dps and i see you, the range, use it on the boss, im putting you on blast. why are u using it if us melee hit harder then u? then they use it on a single boss that doesnt have any adds spawned so again why r u using it? you are a single line aoe lb user. if im on my nin i usually wait till i put up my vuln debuff then i use it.
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  2. #82
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    hagare's Avatar
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    Cesan Duff
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Do the range DPS wasting LB actually time the LB to get the kill so you don't get any phases? Or does every bad ranged DPS in this thread use it as soon as it pops regardless of the boss's HP percentage?
    If the boss is not going to die to LB then why are you wasting LB? The melee DPS might bloody well be waiting for 20-10%(since the bosses have higher HP pools now) to use it, if you're wasting LB on such a high percentage of HP WTF?! If the melee does not use LB when the LB might kill the boss then by all means take the LB, but don't bloody well waste it when it's not going to go for a kill.
    so it refills faster.
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  3. #83
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
    World
    Asura
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    Do the range DPS wasting LB actually time the LB to get the kill so you don't get any phases? Or does every bad ranged DPS in this thread use it as soon as it pops regardless of the boss's HP percentage?
    If the boss is not going to die to LB then why are you wasting LB? The melee DPS might bloody well be waiting for 20-10%(since the bosses have higher HP pools now) to use it, if you're wasting LB on such a high percentage of HP WTF?! If the melee does not use LB when the LB might kill the boss then by all means take the LB, but don't bloody well waste it when it's not going to go for a kill.
    What's wrong if people want to refill the LB bar again for next boss or something?
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  4. #84
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    vigioX-Sun's Avatar
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    Vigiox Sun
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 90
    I troll tank lb all the time on ct an va,bcuz why not we also have a cool animation.
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  5. #85
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Chloe Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    not to sound rude to people not liking Range DPS using LB but have you seen the amount of people who play melee DPS just constantly ignore a perfectly good Melee Limit Break?

    It is so rare for me to see a melee DPS actually use the Melee LB to its full potential becuase most of the time they want to treat the Melee LB as a fancy smancy Finishing Move for the final boss and even when the boss has reached 10% HP and a melee LB2 would easily take out 8% of the HP reducing the boss down to 2% HP but the melee DPS does not even bother using the Melee LB. It gets annoying when they only want to use a melee LB once the boss hits 5% HP which by then the entire group either burn away the remaining 5% HP before the melee LB goes off thus it goes to waste or the melee LB just get unused until someone actually use it. It gets frustating when you even see other party members asking the Melee DPS to use their melee LB when the boss is around 15% HP or lower so we could chop half that 15% hp into around the 8% HP or lower, depedning on group DPS, away but the melee DPS just ignores it and ends up "saving" the LB2 for when the boss is at 5% HP which result 4% or more of the LB damage going to waste.

    Most of the time in dungeon runs the melee LB tends to end up going to waste because the Melee DPS just doesn't want to use the Melee LB to take out a good chunk of the boss HP but instead just holds it for that remaining 5% or lower HP range just so they can use it to finish a boss off in style or completely forget about it because Meh it is only 5% HP left or dying too fast.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 04-07-2016 at 12:19 PM.

  6. #86
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    DarkMyst's Avatar
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    Sou Bloodmane
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    You know, I had no idea the melee LB did more then the ranged LB. In fact, I never thought it mattered as long as it was used. Then again, I am new to the game and only just hit 60 for the first time less then two weeks ago. The only content i'm running is the leveling and trial roulette's, but I just wanted to chip in that perhaps people don't know? I certainly didn't. I only had one person mention to let the melee dps use LB sometime, which I didn't quite understand (as the melee dps was an IRL friend and we were on call during the dungeon lol).
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  7. #87
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    Adire's Avatar
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    Character
    Erin Grey
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMyst View Post
    ....
    It really should be common sense.

    There's not a single AoE rotation in the game that outdamages a single target rotation on single targets. An AoE that DPSes as hard as single target attacks would be extremely overpowered.

    The best ways to use LBs are to have the melee single target LB a boss, or have a ranged LB multiple targets (such as trash, preferably large trash pulls).

    Any other way of using it is inefficient. If the melee isn't LBing or if there isn't a melee, a ranged should always try to hit multiple targets with it. Even blowing it on single target boss isn't optimal.
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  8. #88
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    Zari's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Zari Lutus
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by JisKing98 View Post
    This may sound elitist-like, but if im dpsing as a melee dps and i see you, the range, use it on the boss, im putting you on blast. why are u using it if us melee hit harder then u? then they use it on a single boss that doesnt have any adds spawned so again why r u using it? you are a single line aoe lb user. if im on my nin i usually wait till i put up my vuln debuff then i use it.
    Except you have no reason to wait for that since debuffs and buffs have no effect on the LB whatsoever
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  9. #89
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    drmambo1999's Avatar
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    Character
    Osiris Wrath
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I use my blm on hm primals all the time. This is mainly when the boss is at less than 0.9 hp and no mele lb has been popped. But really in lower end dungeons and trials it really doesnt matter all that much, which is the main reason they are being used. Most end game content has parties using single target dps lbs to push phases or meet dps checks so we casters kinda have a case of blue balls and there is no better place to let out that tension, than in content that it has little impact on anyway. ;p
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  10. #90
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    Ciri_Wolf's Avatar
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    Character
    Cat Mommy
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I use tank LB because I don't want my loved ones and party members to die.
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