Why are ranged using LB so much now?

[RocheKat]

If you didn't use the tank LB in that fight, you were p much dead.

My FC ran it on day one. After wiping forever on that specific spot I realized SE gave us a reason to use tank LB. I would say it is possible to do it without it at that gear level but you would need a very good group to pull it off. Tank LB makes it /derp

And yes I am not talking about melee sitting on the dang thing all day... "But LB doesn't matter outside savage..." What DR are you doing Alex/Primals in? Those fights LB is often the difference between winning and losing... and yes I have lost A8 after a ranged blew a LB on nothing.


This also doesn't answer why Ranged are not using LBs in 4 mans on trash where it is far more powerful. In there they either let the melee use it on a boss or they use it on a boss. Both ways are not that useful because the damage it does just isn't enough to mater on those fights. A big trash pull though makes ranged LB awesome and can really speed up runs.

[AskaRay]

its ok unless there's a competent melee dps in a content that need a quick damage burst to clear, otherwise let any dps do it... and laugh that ranged dps misses target cuz boss moved (or was moved by the tank) outside the AoE line, wasting a LB

I hate this so much.... I usually lock-on target to prevent this from happening yet that doesn't always stop it.........
I remember once in the Arboretum I went to LB the boss and RIGHT as I hit the button I got hit by the charm, I get turned around and the beam goes flying off into the distance..................................

My FC ran it on day one. After wiping forever on that specific spot I realized SE gave us a reason to use tank LB. I would say it is possible to do it without it at that gear level but you would need a very good group to pull it off. Tank LB makes it /derp

And yes I am not talking about melee sitting on the dang thing all day... "But LB doesn't matter outside savage..." What DR are you doing Alex/Primals in? Those fights LB is often the difference between winning and losing... and yes I have lost A8 after a ranged blew a LB on nothing.


This also doesn't answer why Ranged are not using LBs in 4 mans on trash where it is far more powerful. In there they either let the melee use it on a boss or they use it on a boss. Both ways are not that useful because the damage it does just isn't enough to mater on those fights. A big trash pull though makes ranged LB awesome and can really speed up runs.

I've also failed A8 and have had a ranged/caster LB used and still wipe but you know what? That was day one and no one knew what to do then.
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the LB isn't going to save you at that point; DPS is just too low to be honest. LB does like 2 percent on that last boss. It won't save you.

And for primals? Well, I did specify DF and I also said "most primals". PErsonally I wouldn't use the LB in, say, Ravana EX in the DF because too much running and moving for me. Same with Bizzy EX since half the time people wipe anyway.

And...oh wait. I do remember saying that I personally don't use it if we would probably wipe. Ohhhh............

[RocheKat]

It was required in teraflare. Potential usability is still nice - as it is a defensive buff.

Personally, I'd rather see Limit breaks reworked entirely.

1. Everyone gets their own bar
2. Potencies reduced on damage
3. Animation time reduced
4. Healers 3x bar doesn't apply max weakness, but takes a long time to fill up compared to tanks/dps
5. Tanks LB applies a defensive buff to them-self only and provokes everything in the arena + generates a lot of threat

I would rather everyone have their own LBs which would be fun for everyone. I think they have it setup the way it is now as a way to make groups more powerful than a any single player but that is already true anyway. They could also make a group LB and a solo LB which would be fun as well...

Also making your LB bar fill by doing things you are supposed to do and completing fight mechanics would be great because it would give people a reason to not be stupid.

[Canadane]

I have more of a problem with tanks popping LB for no reason but ok.

Sounds like you should LB faster.

[Eidolon]

Well you must be doing something wrong because there aren't always melee in my parties and I use mine whenever I have the opportunity. I use it when appropriate and I'll be the first to agree that it's annoying when a melee just sits on their LB and doesn't use it when I'm sitting back waiting on them. I often lament however just how weak our ranged limit break is especially against a boss.

Often times I'll want to get my DoT's up before LB'ing (just so I have some extra damage ticking), or likewise it's just not safe or intelligent to use the LB at that spot (as I'm expecting a telegraphed attack.)

[MoonPhaseAlpha]

In my defense, the BRD LB before the update was lame... My husband and I do a lot of dungeons together and he was constantly using the LB since his is dmg based, mine was not. Since the update, he's been putting Meteor aside (he's a BLM) and telling me to LB. He likes seeing the animation and I enjoy finally being able to use it. He'll use it from time to time when it's more appropriate, but mostly it's been me.

Lets just say I'm making up all that lost time prior to the LB change SE made...

[KeluBehemoth]

Thinking about ranged DPS vs a melee. Could it not be more advantageous to have the lower DPS job use the LB while the melee can keep its DPS uptime without animation lock, sometimes.

[Ilitsa]

Melee: Wah I don't get to use my LB for the 23490342 time! PARTY FOUL! PARTY FOUUUUL!!

In non-hardcore situations, it doesn't matter who uses it. Just be glad it's being used because most of the time, it's not. The LB isn't a melee-only button. ANYONE in the group is perfectly valid, and allowed to use it at any point they deem fit.

[Derio]

Because melee dps want it to be an epic finisher, when I just want them to do the maximum amount of damage for the LB.

Those melee dps who wait until the LB is at 5% health and then decide to LB.

If the boss is at 15% and you have full LB, by all means take the shot.

[odintius]

Love those fights were it up and mob is like 6% tank says lb nothing happens tank uses it DPS complain mob is dead by time they typed that out always find it funny.