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  1. #11
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    Aura_Shurifon's Avatar
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    Aura Shurifon
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 98
    300k is nothing though, I can get that in one or two weeks (at most) without removing money from my retainer.
    Just by doing my roulette everyday and doing some challenge log (i do 15 more or less every week, without even trying to do them specificly)
    Hint : do roulette as the role in need (AKA tank ;p) you'll get 5-10k bonus per run.
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    Le craft, c'est la vie ! || Craft is Life !

  2. #12
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    Voltyblast's Avatar
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    Rama Kagon
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aura_Shurifon View Post
    300k is nothing though, I can get that in one or two weeks (at most) without removing money from my retainer.
    300k is nothing for you, but it might be a lot for others. Either way, it's 300k that has one major issue: they can be easily wasted if you leave a FC and unless you are the bestest of best friends with them, I can guarantee you that you'll leave your FC one day, leaving those 300k you've wasted (yes, wasted: because they're not coming back, and they're not going to the FC). At one point I would like to ask: what's the point of wasting 300k for a room when you KNOW you'll eventually leave?

    As a matter of fact, I haven't seen a single player in my previous FC buying a room: they're not that stupid!

    Plus think of this way: free rooms for a FC = more people joining for that. Some people would like a personal space to decorate and stuff but 300k it's just too much for something that can be easily removed. If it was free, people would have an additional reason to join a FC: free rooms for everyone, everyone will want to join a FC (with housing, of course) and eventually it could grow bigger. It's simply win-win with zero drawbacks.

    Besides, there SHOULD be better ways to make gil sink ("cough" glamour "cough").

    As for me, with my house I have everything I need (repairs, aesthetician, armoire, and I even have a MB right in front of me), so in my case "what's the point of joining a FC?" Those 2 daily buffs that are barely noticeable?

    PS: if someone says "easy grouping", linkshells are better.

    PPS: yes this was offtopic but my point remains: make inn rooms more useful!
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 04-07-2016 at 05:13 AM.

  3. #13
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    They should have made inn rooms into personal housing
    Currently the Inn rooms are identical for each player it's sort of a micro-instance where the same room is used for everyone. To make them personal housing would require wholesale change to things. Plus Inns are available very early on, and are free. You can access your own retainers aesthetician, armoire, toybox and orchestron, without purchasing housing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Music can be enjoyed at an appropriate volume.
    Smashing ingots however, carries a lot more penetration in it's sound.
    Didn't I read a post from a community manager or Dev where they more or less offered contrition about the impact of 3D spacial audio with the Orchestron? I think they said it would change for the better at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    This has always bothered me, so much.. Its a house, built by the Free Company, and Owned by the Free Company, on a plot of land, which is owned by the Free Company.. So if you HAVE to pay for a room (which should technically be decided by the Free Company), shouldn't the money then go to the Free Company? Maybe be automatically deposited into the FC Chest?

    I mean I understand that it cost money to build things, or to add extensions to a house... but 300k?

    I know they are using it as a way to remove excess quantities of Gil from the game, but it just doesn't make sense to me..
    All FCs have a company bank, it should not be beyond the ability of most non-trivial free companies to pay the 300K for players who can't afford it. Heck, make it a rank achievement reward for continued loyalty to the FC. I've been thinking of doing that in my FC going forward, I think it's a decent idea.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 04-07-2016 at 06:25 AM.

  4. #14
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Even if they didn't allow actual crafting in the inn room, it would be nice if they'd at least let us repair and glamour items there.

    Repairs because each time we try to add something to the armoire and get the error that it can't be added because its condition isn't at 100%, we have to exit just to do the repair and then return to the inn room for a second attempt to put it away. That sort of interruption can get annoying.

    Glamour because we have items in the armoire to use for glamouring. I'll generally want to get the item out, glamour it, and put it back. But that's currently go into the inn room to fetch the glamour item, then exit to glamour it, then return to the inn room to put the glamour item away. Again, the back and forth is annoying.

    Crafting might have some back and forth with our retainers if we don't plan out the ingredients in advance well enough, but retainers are available in plenty of places that allow crafting. For many (most?) players, however, if they don't have a house with an armoire, then the armoire items are only available from the inn room. So it would be nice if activities (like repairs and glamour) that we want to do with armoire items were possible from there.
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  5. #15
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Currently the Inn rooms are identical for each player it's sort of a micro-instance where the same room is used for everyone. To make them personal housing would require wholesale change to things. Plus Inns are available very early on, and are free. You can access your own retainers aesthetician, armoire, toybox and orchestron, without purchasing housing.
    Exactly and that would have made them perfect. Unfortunately SE messed up big time with the farse that is housing. Personal chambers should have had nothing to do with being in a FC; FCs should have only provided an entry point and not linked to the chambers. SE need to pause development of it and rework it from the ground up; we need FF14: Housing Reborn.

    I think a similar system to how Black Dessert does it would have been better. There you chose any available house you want as there can be multiple instances and it's close to seamless but still instanced.
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  6. #16
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    Exactly and that would have made them perfect. Unfortunately SE messed up big time with the farse that is housing. Personal chambers should have had nothing to do with being in a FC; FCs should have only provided an entry point and not linked to the chambers. SE need to pause development of it and rework it from the ground up; we need FF14: Housing Reborn.
    Apartments, coming soon
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  7. #17
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gil sinks don't need to make sense to you, they need to make sense to the economists hired by SE.

    300k is nothing, you can make 300k very easily without ever touching crafting or gathering, if you're getting kicked from free companies that often there are other things you probably should be worrying about.

    And for the OP, they gave a lore reason just so it makes sense for roleplayers, but that's not the real reason, someone in the first page already stated what's the real reason, inn rooms are meant to be low resource instances, there's absolutely no need to take server resources from the rest of the game just so you don't have to click two buttons and leave the inn room to craft something.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Apartments, coming soon
    Again another sticky plaster over the housing system. We need a rebuild of the existing system
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  9. #19
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    C'eleanor Greywolfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Apartments, coming soon
    Which will likely be filled within the hour they are introduced then the cycle starts all over again.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    Which will likely be filled within the hour they are introduced then the cycle starts all over again.
    I assume they are like FC chambers without the FC.
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