Inn Room Functions

[Vivi_Bushido]

Something that's been bothering me lately is the fact that I can't craft, repair, or dye in my Inn Room. Now while it makes sense from a lore perspective that these activities would be too loud and would disturb the other guests in their rooms; why is it then that I can invite NPCs into my room via Summoning Bell and Crystal Ball; as well as blast music through the Orchestrion. Surely the Orchestrion alone is louder and more disruptive to neighbouring guests than the 2 seconds it takes to repair one's own gear?


Is it really too much to ask if dyeing, and repairing could be unlocked while in Inn Rooms?
(Materia melding and crafting make perfect sense for being too loud... but not while you can blast the Orchestrion which could easily drown the noise out).

[Nekotee]

Maybe you can...
Get out of the room ?

[Eul]

Maybe you can...
Get out of the room ?

Maybe OP want do things while listening at Orchestrion lol

[Canadane]

Music can be enjoyed at an appropriate volume.
Smashing ingots however, carries a lot more penetration in it's sound.

[Chione]

Wasn't this a carry over from 1.0? IIRC, it was in place to discourage craft bots. With the introduction of lockable personal housing and rooms where people can craft or dye as they wish, I see no reason why they shouldn't lift the restriction on inn rooms. Eul makes an excellent point also. :3

[Saccharin]

Wasn't this a carry over from 1.0? IIRC, it was in place to discourage craft bots. With the introduction of lockable personal housing and rooms where people can craft or dye as they wish, I see no reason why they shouldn't lift the restriction on inn rooms. Eul makes an excellent point also. :3

They should have made inn rooms into personal housing

[tjw]

If you really want to bring a real life point in here to make your case, well then...There's a difference in noise level between casual conversation or the exchange of items between two people/haircut, and outright explosions of crafting and material making. There's also a difference between appropriate music volume for music as well. You can control the volume of music, you can't control the necessity of noise used for crafting/manufacturing. Since dyes in reality are considering a crafting process, as is repairing (banging dents out of your armour, for example), those will probably still be considered heavy noises.

So alas, we must restrict the convenience of players crafting and dyeing in inn rooms to preserve the lore for people who wouldn't know people are crafting and dyeing in inn rooms anyways.

Doesn't make any sense to me personally, but oh well.

OP's the one bringing up the case of 'lore' where she argues that abilities that we can currently use are comparatively 'louder' than what we can't do, so we should be able to do all those other activities. I'm only stopping that perception as it isn't true.

Technically speaking, the inn room is sort of the 'fast load' area of the game i.e. the lowest memory usage. I, for one, sometimes will use the inn room for load times in and out of DF when I'm playing on my lagtop, simply because the restriction of abilities and zones makes the loading times far quicker than outside. As retainers and aesthetician are loaded on demand, rather than already existing in the area, they don't stress the inn room area enough to make an impact on people who use it for the fast loading concept. These little things do matter; in a farm party and you're taking longer than the queue time to load in? Yup, I'm going to the inn to make that time faster.

[Adire]

There's a difference in noise level between casual conversation or the exchange of items between two people/haircut, and outright explosions of crafting and material making. There's also a difference between appropriate music volume for music as well. You can control the volume of music, you can't control the necessity of noise used for crafting.

So alas, we must restrict the convenience of players crafting and dyeing in inn rooms to preserve the lore and immersion for people who wouldn't know people are crafting and dyeing in inn rooms anyways.

Doesn't make any sense to me personally, but oh well.

People who care THAT much about roleplaying and immersion won't craft in an inn room anyways.

And the people who do craft and dye in one in practice won't disturb the people who care about it because the people who care won't know they're doing it in the first place.

OP's the one bringing up the case of 'lore' where she argues that abilities that we can currently use are comparatively 'louder' than what we can't do, so we should be able to do all those other activities. I'm only stopping that perception as it isn't true.

Technically speaking, the inn room is sort of the 'fast load' area of the game i.e. the lowest memory usage. I, for one, sometimes will use the inn room for load times in and out of DF when I'm playing on my lagtop, simply because the restriction of abilities and zones makes the loading times far quicker than outside. As retainers and aesthetician are loaded on demand, rather than already existing in the area, they don't stress the inn room area enough to make an impact on people who use it for the fast loading concept. These little things do matter; in a farm party and you're taking longer than the queue time to load in? Yup, I'm going to the inn to make that time faster.

Agreed, it's not true.

My reply to your quote wasn't so much directed at your comment as it was to the general reader. Apologies if it seemed like I was disagreeing with your noise point.

I've only brought up similar discussions in the past, with lore/immersion being used as the only defense against being able to do more in inn rooms. I don't really buy into this defense, for the reasons mentioned above.

[Voltyblast]

They should have made inn rooms into personal housing

So true....so true....I'd get my 45 days of waiting done (since relinquishing it doesn't give money back...strangely enough) and settle in my inn room. I'm fine with a small room with some customization.

Or that, or free private chambers in FCs.

[Cinno]

Or that, or free private chambers in FCs.

This has always bothered me, so much.. Its a house, built by the Free Company, and Owned by the Free Company, on a plot of land, which is owned by the Free Company.. So if you HAVE to pay for a room (which should technically be decided by the Free Company), shouldn't the money then go to the Free Company? Maybe be automatically deposited into the FC Chest?

I mean I understand that it cost money to build things, or to add extensions to a house... but 300k?

I know they are using it as a way to remove excess quantities of Gil from the game, but it just doesn't make sense to me..