Nerf "Coming Into Its Own"

[Whiteroom]

I don't mind "a step below" raid weapons, because that's kind of the point of raid items being worth the hassle. My issue is that anima weapons are as difficult to get as the previous cycle's BIS weapon, despite being demonstrably worse than esoterics 210 or lore 230 weapons for most classes. I have 210 weapons for every class that might want/need an anima weapon, and I have a lore weapon on my DRG; meanwhile, my Almace is still 61/80 grind items and 0/16 HQ crafted items. What's the sense in having a quest that takes so long to complete that it's immediately outclassed by the next gated token weapon by the time you finish it?

Given that a lot had it done by new years, you may have been a bit on the slower side.

[fm_fenrir]

people would help in making the items for random players.

I've seen people on Balmung offering to make the anima stuff, provided you bring the mats. The other problem with that developer's line of reasoning is that they added mhachi farthings the patch after anima weapons came out, so you could complete a 210 eso weapon faster than anima weapon anyway.

[Torunya]

I personally see steps like these as a test of patience, as the step itself isn't difficult in the slightest. Only time consuming. Go at it bit by bit every day, and you'll get your relic eventually.

[Blitzace]

For some people, it is. It's really that simple.

Did you forget what it was like before you had crafters and gatherers at 60?

No, i actually SB most of my materia's and farmed MOBS to pay for my stuff.
Stop acting like its impossible, HELL i remember selling a crap ton of lv 20-40 HQ stuff on my goldsmith to.

Alot of people here are just so stuck up and always need something to whine at. Oh this is to hard, this is to expensive.
No it just takes time. Stop thinking everything should just fall out of the sky into your pocket.

I've always done everything myself it took hard work & alot of time to put in. Stop asking for silly nerfs.

I still remember times where i thought 50k was much, i now have enough to basicly buy every single item on the MB. Doesn't change the fact that i darn well know how it used to be for me.

[Berethos]

No, i actually SB most of my materia's and farmed MOBS to pay for my stuff.
Stop acting like its impossible, HELL i remember selling a crap ton of lv 20-40 HQ stuff on my goldsmith to.

Alot of people here are just so stuck up and always need something to whine at. Oh this is to hard, this is to expensive.
No it just takes time. Stop thinking everything should just fall out of the sky into your pocket.

I've always done everything myself it took hard work & alot of time to put in. Stop asking for silly nerfs.

I still remember times where i thought 50k was much, i now have enough to basicly buy every single item on the MB. Doesn't change the fact that i darn well know how it used to be for me.

You seem awfully angry about the experience of others.

Also, you say you remember when you thought 50k was too much, yet earlier you couldn't understand why people think it's too pricey. Bit of a contradiction there.

Furthermore, thinking it's too expensive does not mean they want it handed to them for free either. Stop generalizing.

[Falar]

This is exactly why they haven't nerfed it yet, they aren't going to give you a free pass to the 230 weapon. They seem to be falling into a one hard, one easy step set up for it. Don't expect one hard step to be nerfed until the next comes out. If you don't like the grind, your best option is to either do it passively, just buying UI as you get the Poe/Eso/Beast/Allied currency and buying your lore weapon, then be ready for the 240 step, or just ignore the relic completely. The relic provides benefits for those who chose to grind it out, but the cost is the grind.

There are varying degrees of grind though, and "Coming into its own" exceeds what I would call "reasonable" considering how easy Lore Tomestones are to come by.

[Torunya]

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Honestly I don't blame the man. While of course not everyone wants the relic handed to them for free less effort, the instant gratification trend seems more prevalent now than ever. For those of us who have actually invested significant effort into something like this, it becomes irritating when others "whine" or request nerfs. Even more so when the content in question isn't even difficult, but only requires a considerable time commitment to achieve.

The only thing OP's nerf would accomplish is make an already easy grind even easier. That does not accomplish anything, and certainly wouldn't make me feel proud after completing it either. Being the relic weapon, the whole idea is that the player is supposed to put in effort to obtain it. Just like with everything else in life, at some point or another everyone needs to learn how to work toward a long-term goal. The relic grind won't settle for anything less, so as a player the best you can do is to buckle up and take it step by step.

Remember Billy Ocean kids. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going.

[XiXiQ]

I'd say compared to the Zeta stages, this step isn't too bad. Nor is the crystal thing anywhere near as hair-pulling as the early atma days. And it did get a sort of nerf - the crafted items no longer need a specialist, so it is possible to gather/craft all the items yourself now.

[Blitzace]

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Just cause i think 50k was much does not mean it stops me or anyone else from farming for a item.
Now a days people want things easier and easier. When ever something is hard they complain, ask for nerfs you name it.

There are so many ways in making gil. Mainly Craft/Gather. You can easily make the money with grinding mobs or even low level gathering.
Already mentioned it before, Alumen. Gathering (miner) Level 19? if i remember correctly. used to make like what? 100-200k per stack. What did i need? LV 19 miner. Can get to that level within a hour or two?

Like i said, People moan and moan and want thing easier. Pretty much every relic step people have been crying.

Ohh, this takes to long, that is to expensive. blablabla. Then don't do it. Its not even needed. nor is anyone forcing you to do it. And if that isn't good enough. Like people in my FC ask me to craft those items for them, You can do the same.
Hell buy the stupid mats and tip someone to craft em for you.

[Falar]

Like i said, People moan and moan and want thing easier. Pretty much every relic step people have been crying.

Ohh, this takes to long, that is to expensive. blablabla. Then don't do it. Its not even needed. nor is anyone forcing you to do it. And if that isn't good enough. Like people in my FC ask me to craft those items for them, You can do the same.
Hell buy the stupid mats and tip someone to craft em for you.

I like actually PLAYING this game, not working it as a second job.

The 2nd stage of the anima grind to me was perfect, we need more requirements like that. Not a step that promotes sleep inducing grinding for a month and 5-10 million gil worth of HQ crafts from the MB.