Nerf "Coming Into Its Own"

[Whiteroom]

it really far from free pass right now, and just for a reminder, a i230 weapon (lore weapon) take only 7 week and a very very light grinding for get one. same for the i210 token weapon it can be done in the day.

You can finish the 210 in 3 weeks and the 230 in one week of concertied grinding. ( you have had 4+ months to complete the 3 week step, that means pretty light grinding... kind of a free pass)

this quest was made like this for give people a reason to stay with the 3.1 patch, and seriously i do think the i240 step will be something on par. instead to offer us a true content designed for make us feel progressing as player in our jobs that get the weapon. we need to farm low level content for get one i210 weapon, seriously?

The relic quest is not designed to be a relic quest, it is a tool the devs use to keep older content going and keep us busy, nothing more. It will likely always be this way, and that sucks, I don't disagree that it's bad for a "Relic" quest.

ps: and before someone come talk me about instant gratification, it's more about getting something that are decent... make a farm worth of 3+ week of effort because...

It should take about 4 weeks to get the relic to 230 from 200. You also save 2+ weeks of Lore that you would have to spend if you went that route. Are the three weeks plus 1000 extra Lore worth the effort.

what people want is not always instant gratification but feeling rewarded for a true effort.

True effort? you gain it passively. The only true effort is the raid weapon, and getting a static and making the time for it is part of the effort.

but with FF14 it's did become the goal... it's become the purpose of why we play... and it's bad, in way too many way.... it's bad. it's a easy way to create content without take the risk to offer real content for a large part of the community, because soo far the part of the community doing raid is less of 10%.... means more of 90% aren't doing raid and are only working with the token system.

I don't disagree that it is a bad system that they abuse. I have stated previously how I would like it to be, and that requires far too many resources for them to do it. However, nerfing the quest does not fix how it is bad.

why?
because some don't pve (pvp player)
some don't have the time (casual player)
some don't find the appeal to partage content with that much player, that will recquire a strict execution (mid core player)
and some don't have the people for partake this sort of content

you have even the rp player that will have no interest at all into this....
but instead to offer a decent content in different group category, they focus solely on the raid part. because wow did that... and look how it work well for them now, wow is loosing tons of people per month. because they have refuse to offer new experience and try to offer new type of content.

I think a language barrier got me here.

I think you are saying the relic doesn't cater to the minorities though, when it caters to everyone, if they don't have an interest, they can get the lore.

and i hold against yoshida when he did said while the fanfest of london, that it was not possible to make a challenging content for 4 player... what is false! they hide behind this idea that is not possible, because most them are old player of old game and the genre didn't evolve for the last 20 years. time to wake up. before it's too late.

Didn't see that comment, but I agree with you, though it doesn't really have much to do with the relic quest.

time to offer true content for the relic designed specially for that.
time to offer another activity for the endgame that don't involve 8 player... but 4 or 24 (for the big FC out) because hm dungeon or void ark are not that... they are poor joke.

I agree they should offer that content, but I feel it should have nothing to do with the relic quest, at least not more than a side assignment, it should not be the focus of developing that content.