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  1. #21
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fived View Post
    I hate hate HATE healing tanks that think they should put stone skin on themselves before every pull in 4 man content. The way I see it, if I need SS to keep you alive in this content, then I will give it to you. Meanwhile, we are clearing this content and no one is dying, why come to a complete stop between trash pulls just so you can have a little buff.
    Of all things to complain about, you choose Paladins using Stoneskin on themselves? Stoneskin is a flat 10% mitigation no matter who casts since now WHMs no longer have the trait that made it 18%. If a Paladin wants to use Stoneskin on themselves, let them. At least they give a damn about prevention and mitigation instead of being a typical "ignore defensive CDs" tank that we always complain about here.
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  2. #22
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    Zari's Avatar
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    Zari Lutus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    It is more about the people than the job. Early HW it was DRK because that was when all the remaining loldrgs moved over to DRK without knowing anything about tanking

    Now it is generally WAR since a lot still like to think they are dps even in 4 man content
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  3. #23
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    WAR is not harder to heal. they are getting more damage, yes, but they have a 20% healbonus on their tankstance and lots of selfheals. that means it maybe looks like they are harder to heal because their HP bar jumps more up and down than the HP of the other tanks, but that is nothing you have to worry about.
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  4. #24
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    KiraKarea's Avatar
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    Naki Ryiu
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 80
    The hardest tank to heal is Dragoon, imo.
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  5. #25
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    Kessler Larael
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Literally depends on what the player does.

    I've had tanks of all 3 jobs who by my eye seemingly did nothing yet took near 0 damage so i could basically cleric and ignore them.
    and then I've had people on all 3 jobs doing lots of work, dodging and cycling CD's etc but taking a buttload of damage for no reason.

    Couple this with whether the tank utalises their own healing set up or not marks a wide variable on "Hardest" to heal.
    that and i guess your own mind on what constitutes hard healing.

    going by experiences, id personally say PLD, followed by DRK, with WAR being easiest for me
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    Kessler Larael / Alesana Gardeneau / Sierra Alpha / Moko Tarou
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    Raeleighn Corinthian / Riley Renault
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    6 characters, 1 massive idiot

  6. #26
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    Rydia_Feymarchian's Avatar
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    Rydia Feymarchian
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LDR View Post
    Literally depends on what the player does.

    I've had tanks of all 3 jobs who by my eye seemingly did nothing yet took near 0 damage so i could basically cleric and ignore them.
    and then I've had people on all 3 jobs doing lots of work, dodging and cycling CD's etc but taking a buttload of damage for no reason.
    This. It's the player that makes a job easier or harder, I personally cringe when I see DRK in haukke or level 30-ish content with low level gear because too many times they just throw themselves in without even learning what their moves do or even the basics of tanking. Otherwise? Eh, all jobs are pretty much the same: you can find the good and the bad tank. Or even the tank you see trying hard but keeps getting so much damage you feel genuinely bad for them.

    On the other hand, I met most of the unpleasant/uncaring players tanking either as DRK or WAR, so far I still have to meet a 'why me' paladin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirissa View Post
    Tank says he already knows what he's doing so stfu. Meanwhile, chat is also being flooded with *Tank beckons to mob* over and over again. That was him trying to take the adds off of me.

  7. #27
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    mosaicex's Avatar
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    Noyoyo Noyo
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    Typhon
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    WAR is not harder to heal. they are getting more damage, yes, but they have a 20% healbonus on their tankstance and lots of selfheals. that means it maybe looks like they are harder to heal because their HP bar jumps more up and down than the HP of the other tanks, but that is nothing you have to worry about.
    They ARE actually harder to heal because the instant heal abilities like Tetragrammaton, Lustrate(post-nerf), and Essential dignity do not get any %bonus healing effect.

    Getting back to main topic, I've had WAR that looks like they took no damage from mobs, PLD that leaked HP like a broken PIPE, and DRK that died in 4 seconds in I don't constantly heal him. So I'm going say that,

    It's all depend on players and their gears.
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  8. #28
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    You don't care about the défiance bonus in AST if you use essential dignity since it's boost by the missing HP on the target, it's always powerful and it can crit <3

    All tank are super easy to heal.
    Except again those who pull a shit ton of mob, do not pop a single defensive CD and stay in DPS stance.
    And then blame the heal.

    Those are gonna burn in hell
    And i'm gonna be the first one leading them there.
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  9. #29
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    jmanfrw's Avatar
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    Bael Hobbs
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    Coeurl
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    Botanist Lv 60
    I've always thought that WAR was a little harder to heal than PLD but I have to actually say DRK because sometimes the level of suck DRK's seem to have vastly outpaces the WAR.

    Not saying DRK sucks as a job but I feel like it attracts more bad tanks than the other two, too often get DRK's in roulette at full 210+ who die during trash pulls during my 5 second CS cd, despite a regen, e4e and sometimes even a medica 2 regen active.
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  10. #30
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    Zari Lutus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    WAR is not harder to heal. they are getting more damage, yes, but they have a 20% healbonus on their tankstance and lots of selfheals. that means it maybe looks like they are harder to heal because their HP bar jumps more up and down than the HP of the other tanks, but that is nothing you have to worry about.
    When people say WAR is they aren't talking about the job itself but more a decent amount of players that flock to that job and how THEY play WAR
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