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    Tanks not using cooldowns?

    I've made the same topic on tank forums, but I thought about bringing it up here to see your thoughts. I've had a nonstop barrage of tanks going through whole dungeons not using any cooldowns and some getting snippy with me when I ask them to do so. He did the sit emote before every pull and was whining. Also had a couple not know what "cooldowns" were and had to explain them how to mitigate.

    This is VERY common in expert/60 roulette for me and heavensward content. I usually see cooldowns being used in very early content but thats it. Isn't that part of the fun of being a tank or am I missing something? Please tell me there are other healers paying attention to this and trying to "mitigate" the problem. Especially for newer healers who have to try to pick up the slack while learning on the fly.

    Usually I just kindly tell the tanks and move on.
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    Last edited by Gameplayzero; 04-05-2016 at 05:16 AM.

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    Anienai Talenca
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    I just DPS in Cleric til they dip below 20% and they will get the hint (or kick me). Just flex your fro' the next time a tank turns on bitch mode.
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    Karuru Karu
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    i don't really care what the other people are doing. as long as he can hold aggro... i will just heal im more i guess >.> i don't expect people playing on high lvl in such easy content. especially when i go random i expect nothing at all...

    if the tank is bad i will heal more. if the DD's are bad i will dps more. when both are bad... i don't care if the run takes 40 mins...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i don't really care what the other people are doing. as long as he can hold aggro... i will just heal im more i guess >.> i don't expect people playing on high lvl in such easy content. especially when i go random i expect nothing at all...

    if the tank is bad i will heal more. if the DD's are bad i will dps more. when both are bad... i don't care if the run takes 40 mins...
    yeah you can go through most content with tanks not using cooldowns. Its when tanks do big pulls and die for it (then complain to healers as my friend told me yesterday) that just doesn't make sense or on bosses with heavy tank busters. Its just really disappointing to see lots of tanks not actually tanking besides the aggro part. I just find it lazy lol. Its like a healer just using their basic heal the whole time.

    @An, yeah I do that sometimes just to see how far I can go for future pulls, but not very often.
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    Last edited by Gameplayzero; 04-04-2016 at 07:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i don't really care what the other people are doing. as long as he can hold aggro... i will just heal im more i guess >.> i don't expect people playing on high lvl in such easy content. especially when i go random i expect nothing at all...

    if the tank is bad i will heal more. if the DD's are bad i will dps more. when both are bad... i don't care if the run takes 40 mins...
    High level? Using their CDs is playing at a high level?
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i don't really care what the other people are doing. as long as he can hold aggro... i will just heal im more i guess >.> i don't expect people playing on high lvl in such easy content. especially when i go random i expect nothing at all...

    if the tank is bad i will heal more. if the DD's are bad i will dps more. when both are bad... i don't care if the run takes 40 mins...
    I'm very much the same way. Plus I don't play tank, so I feel I am the last person to tell a tank what he/she should be doing. I also been playing only two months, and perhaps this person might have played less than that? Who knows how long they've been playing, or their mmo experience if swarming around in the early content. The players that want to get better will put the effort in.
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    I'm getting frustrated with my countdown. It's a 10 second macro. When I'm in DF, and in tank stance, while the other tank is in dps stance, I am constantly getting the OT running in to pull the boss when I'm like 7 or 8 seconds remaining. I then immediately drop my tank stance to let him have it.

    But then, what I hate is, he's still not in tank stance, and when someone else takes hate, people are yelling at me. I'll then take it if the OT dies. Otherwise, it's his fault.
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    10 second pull macros have their place in high end content where everyone needs to be on their toes. Using them in DF stuff is, how should I put it.. Majority of the party would see it as waste of time. Most are not in the DF to optimize their performance. They are there just to get stuff done. As a healer it doesn't much matter to me either way but even I tend to think using those in DF is a bit silly.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    I applied a simple rule :
    No defensive CD, no healing.. You better be ready to hit your ultimate.

    If the tank do a half job, i'm doing worse.

    In a normal situation i always my tank sweat by dpsing as much as i can the heal bomb them to top
    But if forget to help me with mitigation... I will forget to help him.

    (Yesterday i did it to my war friend who said "don't let me die i didn't repair my stuff"... Well i really forgot to heal him and he drop to 1 HP thanks to holmgang XD and I was " oh shit sorry I forgot " > benediction....... He hate me so much because i did it 3 time during the whole expert)
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    Pandora Heinstein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post

    If the tank do a half job, i'm doing worse.
    So if the tank sucks you feel entitled to punish the whole group by having 50% of the team being derp?

    I would probably report that. The tank could be a beginner, or just bad but trying at least.

    But you, you do that on purpose, no doubt.
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