I think this game could use a warlock class.

[jomoru]

Traditional Summoner where summons are just excuses for really big effect spells and nothing stays around?

[Duelle]

Traditional Summoner where summons are just excuses for really big effect spells and nothing stays around?

This.

It's sad people have to be constantly reminded of what summons in FF games were really like.

That said, here. If you're up for a read, I tried to make SMN even more like WoW warlocks. And it turned out into even more of a summoner as a result. >.>

[AnaviAnael]

Traditional Summoner where summons are just excuses for really big effect spells and nothing stays around?

Everyone knows traditional summoner is FFXI summoner. Nevermind that Rydia was a BLM, or that Garnet, Eiko, and Yuna were your healers. It's all about FFXI's version. The job is not allowed to change from game to game.

[Lillia]

Everyone knows traditional summoner is FFXI summoner. Nevermind that Rydia was a BLM, or that Garnet, Eiko, and Yuna were your healers. It's all about FFXI's version. The job is not allowed to change from game to game.

In FFXI everyone had subjobs... summoner there wasn't a pure summoner either, they could sub with whm or blm. Also FFV had summoners and a job system.

[AnaviAnael]

In FFXI everyone had subjobs... summoner there wasn't a pure summoner either, they could sub with whm or blm. Also FFV had summoners and a job system.

I'd actually say more often than not in XI your summoner was your healer lol. Summoner is allowed to be varied in playstyle from game to game. I find the whole "traditional summoner" notion to be very silly.

[Lillia]

I'd actually say more often than not in XI your summoner was your healer lol. Summoner is allowed to be varied in playstyle from game to game. I find the whole "traditional summoner" notion to be very silly.

Yeah, I mean theres a lot of non-traditional things varied in a few FFs. I think the way SMN is here suits it but I definitely cannot wait for the pet glams.

[TorenShudoe]

I had this conversation with friend of mine the other day. Basically, THM gets fire, ice, and lightning spells and CNJ gets earth, wind, and water spells. So make a hybrid class that combines the two so you can use all elemental spells for one class.

[AlphaFox]

I had this conversation with friend of mine the other day. Basically, THM gets fire, ice, and lightning spells and CNJ gets earth, wind, and water spells. So make a hybrid class that combines the two so you can use all elemental spells for one class.

Your thinking Redmage I would assume, but lets not start that mess. xD

Wouldn't argue honestly if Summoner got changed to a new class completely to recreate summoner. I kinda expected them to have big cast times to summon for a big hit or maybe even akin to Yuna in Dissidia.

[Zorafin]

Traditional Summoner where summons are just excuses for really big effect spells and nothing stays around?

Yes.

Please.

I love blm because of the big windup and big payoff. Hitting 60 just made it better. Huge charge times with huge animations would be a way more satisfying than stealing a completely unrelated class and calling it summoner. The fantasy of every other FF class is met in this game, but summoner is just boring.