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    8If this happen ur looking at a op tank u guys keep forgetting that low blow has a a chance to recast every parry that means with dark dance and keen furry ur looking at 70% chance to parry even with the rng it seems a bit op and u guys forget that rerepirsal has a longer cooldown so everytime u proc it u can't use it... bfb seems a bit much to me. if it was gld and lnc ur looking at another war ot as a mt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
    8If this happen ur looking at a op tank
    You could save and stack both DD and KF every 90 secs or stack them every 180 and have a DD up every 120 secs. The greatest advantage would be the ability to "at will" proc a Reprisal. Increased RP and parry mitigation over all would be a secondary benefit- helping to pad the loss of Foresight. I don't think that potentially increased low blows is going to skyrocket DRK's dps potential. Also I'm not sure how BfB would give DRKs the status of WAR MT? Its a 20sec buff that more than negates their tanking stance and has a 80sec recast time. So it would be far less effective than the WAR's stance dancing abilities right? I could be misunderstanding though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    You could save and stack both DD and KF every 90 secs or stack them every 180 and have a DD up every 120 secs. The greatest advantage would be the ability to "at will" proc a Reprisal. Increased RP and parry mitigation over all would be a secondary benefit- helping to pad the loss of Foresight. I don't think that potentially increased low blows is going to skyrocket DRK's dps potential. Also I'm not sure how BfB would give DRKs the status of WAR MT? Its a 20sec buff that more than negates their tanking stance and has a 80sec recast time. So it would be far less effective than the WAR's stance dancing abilities right? I could be misunderstanding though.
    Your taking a sentence out of multiple sentences your ur statement is fall. Did you forget that u can also stance dance during when your main tanking when u build enough aggro. 15% is darkside, for 20 secs you add blood for blood at very 60 secs cuz bfb lasts for you 20 secs and increase your dmg by 10%, its a min after bfb is popped. Its a bit close to war mting tanking in tank stance. War stance is minus 25% of dmg plus maim adds 20% dmg. Berserk is 50% dmg increase 4 20 secs for ever 40 secs its lasts 20 secs but its a min cooldown. The total is 35. This doesn't included unchained. With unchained its 70%. With this change pld might be out of a job
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
    Your taking a sentence out of multiple sentences your ur statement is fall. Did you forget that u can also stance dance during when your main tanking when u build enough aggro. 15% is darkside, for 20 secs you add blood for blood at very 60 secs cuz bfb lasts for you 20 secs and increase your dmg by 10%, its a min after bfb is popped. Its a bit close to war mting tanking in tank stance. War stance is minus 25% of dmg plus maim adds 20% dmg. Berserk is 50% dmg increase 4 20 secs for ever 40 secs its lasts 20 secs but its a min cooldown. The total is 35. With unchained its 70%.
    Relax, I only quoted the first sentence because I am new and couldn't figure out how to do the whole thing and stay within the 1000 char limit. If you used BfB outside of Grit while MT you would take an increase of 25% damage. Therefore the only viable way to use BfB as MT would be in Grit and that makes it very different than how WAR functions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    Relax, I only quoted the first sentence because I am new and couldn't figure out how to do the whole thing and stay within the 1000 char limit. If you used BfB outside of Grit while MT you would take an increase of 25% damage. Therefore the only viable way to use BfB as MT would be in Grit and that makes it very different than how WAR functions.
    Please take a note that u can have both grit and darkside at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukebox12 View Post
    Please take a note that u can have both grit and darkside at the same time.
    Yeah..... I am aware of how it functions. Grit gives DRK a 20% decrease to incoming damage and a 20% decrease to outgoing damage. Darkside increases damage dealt by 15% while activated. Putting us at -20% damage incoming and -5% damage outgoing. BfB in Grit would mean that for 20secs every 80secs you could find yourself taking increased 5% of damage for an extra 5% outgoing. If you dropped Grit you would increase the damage dealt to you to by 25% for an extra 25% outgoing. That is different than WAR stance dancing in MT position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    Yeah..... I am aware of how it functions. Grit gives DRK a 20% decrease to incoming damage and a 20% decrease to outgoing damage. Darkside increases damage dealt by 15% while activated. Putting us at -20% damage incoming and -5% damage outgoing. BfB in Grit would mean that for 20secs every 80secs you could find yourself taking increased 5% of damage for an extra 5% outgoing. If you dropped Grit you would increase the damage dealt to you to by 25% for an extra 25% outgoing. That is different than WAR stance dancing in MT position.
    Please note i was using sarcasm. Also how did u get 20 secs every 80 secs its 20 every 60 secs cuz when u pop it its goes on cool down and its 1/3 dmg ewhen war is stance dancing with berserk
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    Dark knight being a ot its utility sucks. Its mt without a mnk u have a int 10% debuff u got reparisal also u can stunk lock.... even if the bosss is innume to stuns ur still dealing dmg.
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