Perhaps a Simple DRK Solution

[Chronons]

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Very cool to know its multiplicative and not additive. I wasn't sure if subsequent skills took into account the effects of previous ones or just used the base statistic. Considering that is the case I still think BfB functions well with Grit. Being that the skills are multiplicative I actually think it makes BfB better. With additive we were talking about an increase of 25% in damage taken for a 10% increase dealt according to your your numbers its actually an increase of 18.75% damage taken for a 9% increase to damage dealt. You are absolutely correct that straight dropping Grit gets you to higher dps numbers, however it costs a significant amount of MP and a GCD - doubled if you need to return back to Grit stance. Adding BfB means in times where actual stance dancing is too risky you can still pseudo stance dance.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Very cool to know its multiplicative and not additive. I wasn't sure if subsequent skills took into account the effects of previous ones or just used the base statistic. Considering that is the case I still think BfB functions well with Grit. Being that the skills are multiplicative I actually think it makes BfB better. With additive we were talking about an increase of 25% in damage taken for a 10% increase dealt according to your your numbers its actually an increase of 18.75% damage taken for a 9% increase to damage dealt. You are absolutely correct that straight dropping Grit gets you to higher dps numbers, however it costs a significant amount of MP and a GCD - doubled if you need to return back to Grit stance. Adding BfB means in times where actual stance dancing is too risky you can still pseudo stance dance.

Normal=1.0x damage.

Why would you.. activate a B4B in Grit.. when you could drop Grit, get even MORE damage and not take as much damage?

Normal+Darkside+B4B=1.25x damage.
Normal+Darkside=1.15x damage.
Normal+Darkside+Grit=0.92x damage.
Normal+Darkside+Grit+B4B=1.0x damage. The same damage.. for just being normal.

So your idea, doesn't make a lick of sense. You would do 15% more damage just using Normal+Darkside. With Normal+Darkside+Grit+B4B your taking even more damage with 15% less damage.

[Aaliyahrose]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/m...-Nektulos-Tuor
I'm just going to leave this here...

[Nektulos-Tuor]

If B4B was "take x damage over x seconds" instead of "take more damage" it would be a lot more managable. However your also probably going to be out of grit so you will be taking a LOT of damage.

I honestly feel like DRK should have Lancer and Marauder and Gladiator cross-classable. Blood for Blood would be good, but not for tanking.

Actually.. Blood for Blood would be AMAZING for Dark Knight... Living Dead would actually work a lot better.


With Living Dead, you WANT to die.

[kaox_reaper]

lets be real here at best you gain internal release, second wind and invig that won't hinder your roles ability to do it's job at the cost of key skills that can litteraly stop you from raiding.

Internal Release and Second Wind are PGL skills.

[BattleGrace]

Internal Release and Second Wind are PGL skills.

you are correct i missread it as PLD/WAR to PUG/LCN

[garret_hawke]

Well SE could stop the debate by give each job 3 classes to take cc from with 2 more slots (1 at 60 and and 1 at 70) in 4.0. Thought ?

[Nite83]

I would like to see Shade shift become a cross class for Drk.

[MagiusNecros]

The fact a lot of skills that should benefit from Dark Arts either should or get a passive potency buff while under the effect of Dark Arts until it is expunged. But really shit like Salted Earth, Sole Survivor and more need DA effects. Only HW skills to do this were AD and CnS.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Why would you use Grit+B4B? It would just make you take more damage with little gain.

Grit decreases all damage by 20%, regardless of how many bonuses you have.