Feeding in the Feast for Esos

[Dimitrii]

>2 weeks after punish/lower eso reward
"Why is the queue so long? Please fix!"

Because those ppl you are trying so desperately to hold on to by dangling tomes at them, and who for the most part dont give two s**ts about pvp, are still gonna be here after they get the tomes they needed for their relic or glamour or whatever? Give me a break >.> Tomes didnt keep frontlines queues from breaching 15 and then 30 minutes a few weeks after the initial luster wore off and it wont be the reason Feast stays afloat assuming it is still salvageable. You either like to PVP or you dont its that simple. Those that do will keep pvping and those that arent into it wont after they get what they want.

[kisada]

i would much rather play with people who care about pvp and want to have a good match than people who don't.

i can guarantee that most others who truly like pvp feel the same. the more people playing who care only about the competition the better the health of the game becomes.

[Cynthis]

I hate making this argument but it is a slippery slope though. There are people who obviously misues the system but there's a fine line between that and just lazy or bad players and should you be able to report those as well? I hate PvP and I am very bad at it so I never did it until the feast BUT I do want to compete in achievement points so since I can go in with a pre-made team, and it's fast, play half-heartedly and get achievement points/glamour/mionion/music I have been doing some of that. I would never queue solo but only queue with others who feel the same way. Should I be punished for then not trying very hard to win when I am only playing in a group with others who feel the same way? How about a person spirit bonding a ring in a dungeon that makes it take 15 seconds longer to do or people wiping deliberatly as soon as something goes wrong in a trial instead of trying to fight through it against the odds? If we start banning people for being lazy this game will empty in a hurry.

[DukeGr]

The fun thing is that they believe removing the tome reward will make the queues unbearable, and people won't even go through the trouble waiting for hours to go in. This by itself is proof that the system by itself is not fun or worth people's time, so by adding some pve reward they artificially increase the number of players participating but not actual PvPers. So again you can conclude, that the PvP system itself is fundamentally flawed, and needs a remake in order for people to willingly participate in actual PvP. Maybe they can make a PvP Reborn patch or something, but something definitely need to be done.

[Zephyros_B]

What I woke up to this morning before work. Sorry, didn't have time to read through 8 pages but thought this was relevant.

[Sento-Frost]

Someone I know got banned / jailed for 48h on our datacenter (Chaos / Europe) because he did not heal after a clash with the tank.
He got punished for eso-farming while it was his 2nd run in the Feast and he wasn't even trying to lose on purpose nor eso-farm.

Somehow, this is going out of hand ^^'

[Jamillion]

I've been seeing PFs for this on Lamia (3 up at once!) It's ridiculous! I'm not hardcore into PVP myself but I enjoy it and I do okay. Seeing people farming tomes like that is disgusting.

[bounddreamer]

It's not like it's a long match to go into 4v4 and try your hardest. -_- Winning is just better...

[Igneous]

What is an esos?

[Jamillion]

What is an esos?

Level 60 tomes. The new relic uses a lot of them