[Suggestion] Fuse bonus attributes / solve SMN/SCH issue

[Sento-Frost]

Hi,

I'm playing very often SMN / SCH, and I'm sick of switching my bonus points between intel / mind, and using up all my company seals doing so.

It also seems to starle new players too :
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...olar-newb-halp!

My suggestion : fuse intelligence and mind bonuses into magic potency giving both (30 magic potency = 30 intel + 30 mind), and to be fair, fuse strength and dexterity the same way into physical potency.
EDIT: I must specify I'm not asking to fuse them on the whole system, but only for bonus stats.

The same way, please make ACN traits give both mind and intelligence.

Classes who need mind won't make real use of so little intelligence points, and the other way around is true too. Anyways, as Scholars we DPS in cleric stance so only mind matters, and 30 bonus points of mind won't make the summoner or black mage into healers.

This should also not be difficult to implement, so please mind us !

[Rawrz]

If you don't like switching pick one you like and stick to it or continue to use the easily obtained hymns. No other class can you freely switch between healer and dps. It is a privilege and doesn't warrant changing the stat system so much.


At most they could have the hymn be used in the free stat allocation screen and have a "remaining points in this stat" button.

[Sento-Frost]

All classes allow to easily switch between healer and DPS, I don't need a shared XP bar to level up, and I've been in the game since august 2013....
So please don't say it's a privilege ^^

Why should I pick ?
I'll gladly level up again the whole class to avoid using up all my seals and the hassle of changing all the time.

[Rawrz]

All classes allow to easily switch between healer and DPS, I don't need a shared XP bar to level up, and I've been in the game since august 2013....
So please don't say it's a privilege ^^

Why should I pick ?
I'll gladly level up again the whole class to avoid using up all my seals and the hassle of changing all the time.

You can't be on BLM decide that you want to be a healer and put in another soul stone for a thamauturge and be a healer. Arcanists are one single class that becomes 2 separate jobs. That's what I mean by privilege. Maybe you could argue that they keep stat allocations on jobs separate from their class. Example:

Arcanist is full VIT (for example purposes.)
With SCH soulstone you start with all 30 of your free stats and go full mind
With SMN same as above but full INT.
Switching back to ACN would bring you back to your +30 vit.

[jmanfrw]

You can't be on BLM decide that you want to be a healer and put in another soul stone for a thamauturge and be a healer. Arcanists are one single class that becomes 2 separate jobs. That's what I mean by privilege.

Personally I don't feel as if it's a privilege at all. I'd rather level up SMN seperately since leveling as SCH for faster que lead to me sucking at SMN pretty bad, having to pick up a whole new set of skills at 60 because from 30-60 I never used SMN at all.

the leveling process helps a lot in learning a job and just jumping in max level with 10 new skills, new CC abilities and a new raid role is rough not worth the "privilege" when you account for the need for hymns and the loss of the leveling a class experience.

[Spiroglyph]

As in, actually make int and mnd the one and the same stat overall, or making a separate stat that only works for BONUS POINTS giving you both int and mnd?
Because, if it's the first option, I'm not really going to like having a random summoner doing my job for me instead of focusing on DPS... that messes a bit (lot) with the holy trinity thing this game has going on and imo it's going to blur considerably the line between healer and caster...

The hymns are like, what, 200 GC seals anyway? You can buy a couple of those by trading in a single drop from an expert roulette dungeon, i don't see why merging two stats together would be necessary...

And as a healer, if stance dancing is so much trouble for you you should probably just focus on healing anyway rather than risk wiping the team. :/

If your suggestion falls on merging only the bonus points though, this would be okay, but still entirely unnecessary imo

[Sento-Frost]

I just mean that I don't care about a privilegeif the drawback is that huge ^^

[koroko220]

As a summoner main who plays scholar... it does suck having to remember to swap stats, but it's not like it's hard to do. Hymns are so ridiculously cheap compared to the 1 or 2k they used to cost. My 201 sch physick on average 3100 with 35 points of mind. With 35 points int it's about 3k on average... if you really don't want to swap just pick a stat and keep it there.

[Suirieko]

A bit of logic: Of all the healers, scholars can fight the most through their damaging spells, so INT would be more beneficial for both classes, which is something worth keeping in mind.

[DarkmoonVael]

A bit of logic: Of all the healers, scholars can fight the most through their damaging spells, so INT would be more beneficial for both classes, which is something worth keeping in mind.

This is where you find out that someone doesnt quite know what cleric stance does.

Cleric stance swaps mind and int. If you spec into int on sch, then hit cleric stance, that int is no longer contributing to dps, at all.........

And the int also contributes nothing to your healing.

Meaning int is a dead stat on sch.

Back on topic. The reward of having a dps and healer class level as one far outweighs having to swap stats around if you want to use both.