I just don't get it.

[Krissey]

This is my final post in this thread because people can't seem to get past the idea that yes WORK(aka something you don't really want to do) can be used in a game to attain something that makes you happy.

And I'm going to use FFXIV examples even though I already used some, but everyone ignores those, and just focuses on the work analogy.

1.) GATES: they were for the most part dead before this last patch. All they did was slightly increase it's MGP gain. Now people are spamming GATES. If it was FUN content. They would've done them anyways before the MGP buff. But they didn't. So them waiting around GATE npc's, is a result of people doing content because the reward makes it worth it.

2.) 3.1 Relic quest. People complained really hard about the step to get it to 210. I can guarantee you hundreds of alexander runs were done under the pretense of "work" aka not having that much fun. In order to obtain end goal. Some people didn't find the reward worthwhile and skipped it. Some people were content with a daily routine to work toward it (Still something alot of people probably wouldn't have done otherwise)

3.) Beast Tribe quests. If they had no reward, how many people would do those? wouldn't you consider beast tribe quests bad design? But I bet people who didn't like them, but did them anyways got the mount. Are content with their decision.

Who are you guys to tell people that "doing things you don't want to do in a video game" is a waste of time? The END result feeling is all the release someone needs to enjoy the content.

Stop trying to force your ideology of "you should like the game w/o rewards" on other people.

I'm not trying to force any ideology on people. I just think it's ridiculous to treat a game, a leisure activity for pleasure, like a job - a requirement to be productive to society to be able to afford leisure activities of pleasure.

I did the Ixali beast quests at first only because I heard they were "good crafting EXP", but I still do them despite being capped in rank with them because I actually had a lot of fun with the story of building the airship with the bird men. I got invested in "What happens next" and enjoyed interacting with all the characters in the story.

I do the antitower like 8 times a day grinding esoterics to get my gear but I ENJOY playing my monk, I like the big time hits with Forbiden Chakra and Tornado Kick. I enjoy weaving my rotation together and trying to do a great job every fight. I got a Shiva mount really quickly during a pony farm but was SAD when it ended, because I loved using her as a punching dummy. I like playing my monk, dishing out dps on it and figuring out ways I can power up my chakra mid-fight without losing any DPS.

I love gathering, and had a great time leveling my miner and botanist to 60...and I loved getting my Fisherman to 50. I can't wait to get it to 60 but I'm doing my crafters to 50 first. I love the stories of every class trainer. They're hilarious and engaging.

I enjoy FATE grinding for my relic quest, I enjoy hunts, I enjoy housing, I enjoy farming materials for big time rewards like Stuffed Goblin. I've been gardening to grow a Mandragora Queen stuffed animal for my house and it's been fun to watch the process of getting the right plants and growing them in a precise order. Sure it's a lot of waiting around, but it's cool to see the fruits of the labor and enjoying the labor.

I don't see anything in this game as a "chore". I'm excited every time I log in. I do it for the rewards, but I enjoy the journey to the rewards also. This isn't my job, it's my escape from my job. I love this game and every aspect of it. Check my character sheet I've got a lot of high level stuff. I do a bit of everything. Maybe not to the nth degree - I'm no savage raider, pentamelded turbo crafter, +500 gathering monster for the 4 star materials, I don't do anything "The best" but I do all of and love it.