Anima Relic

[Berethos]

Vath have the same token/pricing scheme as the Vanu Vanu. The only reason you'd want to grind out those beast tribes is their quests lets you level up any class from 50 and up while the ARR tribes is only good for people leveling up classes in the 40s.

I am aware of that.

My comment was in relation to the rate of currency acquisition via the tokens and pricing. When the Anima first became available, some asked if it was better to go back and do the ARR tribes or just stick with the Vanu Vanu, and people then figured out that if you got all of the beast tribe quests to Rank 3 instead of using your allotment on the Vanu Vanu (this was all based on if you did just those for the unidentified items, which is obviously not the recommended way to do it, but it was mostly just theorycrafting specific circumstances than anything else), you would surpass the total number of tokens acquired by the Vanu Vanu option around the 53rd day of dailies (it was like 9 or 10 for the Vanu Vanu due to how specific days get you 3 extra as you're leveling the ranks, 12 for the ARR Beast Tribes). You'd then quickly outpace the Vanu Vanu option, with another 3 tokens per ARR tribe every 13 days, versus just 2 tokens total from the Vanu Vanu every 12.

So the other part of my comment was at the time I wasn't aware of how the addition of the Vath impacted that comparison, as in which day after starting (if beginning all ARR from 0 which takes I think 40 days total to get all 4 to rank 3, or Heavensward tribes from their start) the ARR tribes would overtake the Heavensward option (again, this was all from a theory crafting point of view, not a "here's what you should actually do, unless that's really your cup of tea" point of view).

The answer to that, by the way, is around day 66. If, for some reason, someone wanted to do get all of their tokens from just beast tribe dailies and was at 0% progression for any of them...that's the day the ARR tribes would overtake the Heavensward option (give or take - I didn't factor in the 3 extra from the days you rank up, which is more impactful for the Heavensward tribes as it doesn't cut into the other tribe). In the end, ARR from 0% progression is about 2 months faster than the Heavensward option if you do them and only them (and in my opinion anyone that does is either extremely patient or a little bit crazy, or perhaps both).

[Falar]

I hadn't really seriously considered hunts as at a glance they look slow. 500 centurio seals per item and the hunts give a small amount of seals. I think I will give this a try now, 5-6 unidentified items in 2 hours sounds unreal. Right now I'm getting like 4 PER DAY.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

I hadn't really seriously considered hunts as at a glance they look slow. 500 centurio seals per item and the hunts give a small amount of seals. I think I will give this a try now, 5-6 unidentified items in 2 hours sounds unreal. Right now I'm getting like 4 PER DAY.

As long as you know what you're doing and most of the hunts are up, then yes (5-6 items in 2 hours is best case scenario and that would normally mean an end to the hunt for 2-3 hours). I'm also pretty certain that you need 1000 Allied seals per item, and the Centurio don't actually work towards any of the unidentified items. This means that it's probably a good idea to do ARR Hunts + their dailies & weeklies if you want to stay productive. The point is that if you have a legitimate "Hunt" going on, then you can normally knock out 12 or so marks every hour, and S ranks will give a ton of seals & tomes.

Also keep in mind that you can still do the Roulettes & Beast quests as well since the Roulettes give great tome value for the time you put in, and Heavensward Beast Tribe items can be turned into any of the items (meaning that you can essentially stock a ton of them and wait to turn them into an item until you figure out which ones you need).

[Falar]

As long as you know what you're doing and most of the hunts are up, then yes (5-6 items in 2 hours is best case scenario and that would normally mean an end to the hunt for 2-3 hours). I'm also pretty certain that you need 1000 Allied seals per item, and the Centurio don't actually work towards any of the unidentified items. This means that it's probably a good idea to do ARR Hunts + their dailies & weeklies if you want to stay productive. The point is that if you have a legitimate "Hunt" going on, then you can normally knock out 12 or so marks every hour, and S ranks will give a ton of seals & tomes.

You're right, it is 1000 allied only. I guess I will give it a try but I seldom see hunts in the PF.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

You're right, it is 1000 allied only. I guess I will give it a try but I seldom see hunts in the PF.

I would also try to get into a few "current" Hunt linkshells. Normally just asking in Idyllshire or Mor Dhona will probably net you a few invites. It's possible on your server that a good amount of people who still do the Hunt aren't using the Party Finder.

[Neophyte]

I hadn't really seriously considered hunts as at a glance they look slow. 500 centurio seals per item and the hunts give a small amount of seals. I think I will give this a try now, 5-6 unidentified items in 2 hours sounds unreal. Right now I'm getting like 4 PER DAY.

An A-Rank gives now 0.099 (old) or 0.07 (new) ui items. So old ones are almost an alexander run, which is worth 1/10 of an item and new ones as much as a single beast tribe quest, which is 0.075 ui items (i almost always skipped those new hunts and did old ones only).

S-ranks give almost 0.3 (three runs of Alex!!!), new ones still 0.19 ui items.

So yes... Hunt are quite fast

[Maero]

Well they introduced crafting at the last stage of Zeta if i recall (yes i had 2 of them but do not remember) and was hoping they would move away from the needing crafting... but nope
Best bet is to gather the mats and get someone to craft for you, or just buy from the mb like i have done

[Nyalia]

Well they introduced crafting at the last stage of Zeta if i recall

Second to last step. The last step was more light.

[Zari]

One thing I've been thinking about trying with the first 2 unidentified items is possibly grinding out extra poes with ARR hard mode primal new player bonuses since I seem to get those fairly often when I go in to them
Only issue really is it isnt necessarily reliable