Anima Relic

[VirusChris]

^Well they DID adjust the enemies to kill in the Animus Book for the Zodiac Weapons from 10 to 3... so it's not outright positive they will, but at the same time there's nothing preventing them from reducing the number of items.

[Nyalia]

^Well they DID adjust the enemies to kill in the Animus Book for the Zodiac Weapons from 10 to 3... so it's not outright positive they will, but at the same time there's nothing preventing them from reducing the number of items.

While this is true, they didn't reduce the amount of alexandrite or materia, just started giving 5x alexandrite from maps and increased the drop rate from fates. They didn't reduce the light requirements, just started giving more light. They didn't reduce the number of mahatmas either, just increased the amount of light. They didn't reduce the number of crafted items or the price of the GC orbs or the price of the 100k shop bought items. They didn't reduce the number of dungeons, just gave the drop 100% of the time. They didn't reduce the number of fates, just increased the spawn rate. They didn't reduce the number of thavnairian mists, just reduced the cost.

I can't think of a single change that was retroactive EXCEPT the number of enemies to kill in your CURRENT book, which was a small change given your current book's enemies to kill is only 1/4th of the requirements for 1/9th of the books required for a single half-step.

[Zari]

I think when Berethos said difficult they didnt mean it as you think it does.

They mean more that for some people that step is literally currently impossible if they cant make them themselves or have someone else do it since depending on the server the items can be expensive and most players that dont have crafters and gatherers leveled dont have millions of gil to spend

[Berethos]

I think when Berethos said difficult they didnt mean it as you think it does.

Less literally impossible, and more that it requires a greater amount of steps and more time spent on that step than someone who has already done the crafting and gathering, and how that affects a persons perception of how difficult that step is. If you consider obtaining the items as a journey of 10 miles, you could consider those who already have all their crafting and gathering classes at 60 as being halfway there already versus those who don't and who are back at the start (don't read too much into the specifics of that analogy, it's far from perfect)...and so depending on who you ask, you'll get a different answer as to how difficult they feel it will be to reach the end.

Also, I think Nyalia is pretty much spot on as to how we will likely see the nerfs to the process. Things like boosted drop rates for the crystals are a good possibility (which doesn't need much as is, but it could be one way of them adjusting it), and I'm thinking maybe giving two currency from the beast tribe dailies instead of one as another possible change (though even a small change like that would speed things up considerably...you'd go from 3 per tribe per day to 6 per tribe per day - right now you get 3 unidentified items over 13 days from each ARR beast tribe...that one small change would double that, with you getting 6 unidentified items per beast tribe ever 13 days from just that source alone, which in the long run changes beast tribes from about 80 days to just over 40 if you only used it as an option).

Basically, expect to have to get the same stuff you do now, but the rate of acquisition will change at some point.

[Whiteroom]

The differences in the difficulty of that step is a bouns for those who have their craft/gather to 60. It takes a heck of a lot more work to get those classes to that level, than the benefit you get as well. The real bouns is being able to sell the product anyway.

I didn't craft or gather for those and that part of the quest was by far the easiest. There isn't much easier than being prepared and buying them off the MB or from someone selling them in PF. There is no difficulty at all in buying them of the MB, so really, the savings crafters get from making their own is the bonus.

But in the end you are really just pointing out that someone who comes prepared will find the step easier, which is the same for everything.

[Berethos]

But in the end you are really just pointing out that someone who comes prepared will find the step easier, which is the same for everything.

Which no one should have to point out, since it is pretty dang obvious.

But given some of the posts on previous pages, and in other similar threads, it's apparently something that some people missed (given the multiple "You shouldn't find it hard because I didn't find it hard because I was prepared" type responses)...and why I brought it up in the first place.

[Whiteroom]

Which no one should have to point out, since it is pretty dang obvious.

But given some of the posts on previous pages, and in other similar threads, it's apparently something that some people missed (given the multiple "You shouldn't find it hard because I didn't find it hard because I was prepared" type responses)...and why I brought it up in the first place.

I would say their responses wer geared more towards, you wouldn't find it hard if you had set yourself up for success. That step is not an RNG step, so really it is only as hard as you make it on yourself. If you keep a gil stash around, then steps like that, or at least the crafting portion are not really a concern.

Doing stuff like finding a solid crafter you can go to as a regular helps with those steps. A lot want repeat customers.

Also, they should not be changing the step to coddle the least prepared. Not until the time comes for them to change it so that newer players can have an easier time catching up.

[Falar]

This Eso/Poetic grind is INSANE, my Vanu Vanu and Vath items will only barely contribute. By comparison in Step 4 of this quest chain I will only have to grind 9000 Esos. I'm hoping that being able to focus just on Esos will make that go much faster, maybe 1 oil every other day.

Honestly, I'm starting to get bored out of my mind. I hope I can keep my motivation for another 4-5 weeks and get this done and not move on to playing something else.

[Whiteroom]

This Eso/Poetic grind is INSANE, my Vanu Vanu and Vath items will only barely contribute. By comparison in Step 4 of this quest chain I will only have to grind 9000 Esos. I'm hoping that being able to focus just on Esos will make that go much faster, maybe 1 oil every other day.

Honestly, I'm starting to get bored out of my mind. I hope I can keep my motivation for another 4-5 weeks and get this done and not move on to playing something else.

You can also hit alex up, or do some fate leveling for Allied seals, or hunts, or maps. Change it up and keep it somewhat fresh. Alternatively, grab your lore weapon and catch up more casually on the relic.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Vath have the same token/pricing scheme as the Vanu Vanu. The only reason you'd want to grind out those beast tribes is their quests lets you level up any class from 50 and up while the ARR tribes is only good for people leveling up classes in the 40s.