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    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    WTF. There's so much wrong with this. You could just do exponentially more damage in the time it takes to cast Foes, and melee/yourself gets way more benefit from physical hypercharge.
    Agreed with this, Healer dps is so inconsequential in the feast. In a situation where you'd cast foes/ or remove rook to cast bishop if its not already out, for the healer to DPS for whatever reason. 1 you'd be better off with physical hypercharge for any number of reasons. 2 I'd rather the healer waste their GCD on heals or CC than damage. If the DPS players need healers helping to get the kill then thats a terrible situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Agreed with this, Healer dps is so inconsequential in the feast. In a situation where you'd cast foes/ or remove rook to cast bishop if its not already out, for the healer to DPS for whatever reason. 1 you'd be better off with physical hypercharge for any number of reasons. 2 I'd rather the healer waste their GCD on heals or CC than damage. If the DPS players need healers helping to get the kill then thats a terrible situation.
    On top of that, no one is ever going to stand within range of a Bishop hypercharge, and you're losing 40 potency from turret (assuming you even hit anything)

    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post

    @OP foe's/bishop hyper charge are clinch if you have a blk/whm. They don't overwrite fullswing/phantom dart, pop them when you see your Blk pop enochian, or if your whm is on the offensive, and watch the target melt.

    Just to put it in perspective. A healer's damage is jackshite in PvP duje to no cleric stance. The GCD spent casting Requiem has almost no pay off when you're looking at 10% of 200~ damage. Not to mention a GCD spent dpsing (in an environment where damage can be incredibly erratic compared to PvE) is GCD not being used for healing.

    And as a MCH, I can tell you right now and that hypercharging a bishop is garbage in PvP. It's stationary and it hits in an AoE around it. No one is ever going to stand within it's range to take more than 1 hit (which would realistically mean a 10 second uptime of magic vulnerability), on top of you not having a rook auto turret's potency which isn't restricted to a 5 yard radius and hits harder (on top of buffing the MCH ,melee and tank in a 4v4 setting, versus magic buffing a healer in 4v4)
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    Last edited by RiceisNice; 04-03-2016 at 08:50 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    On top of that, no one is ever going to stand within range of a Bishop hypercharge.
    you could feasibly lead someone into it maybe... or stand inside the range yourself. but still its nowhere near as good as rook in anyway lol.
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