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[Cynric]

Well, DRG also has Skewer, which is 40% INT down over DK's 10%. DK may be able to stay up forever, but Skewer is better because the best moment for INT down is when the SMN is bursting/prepping banes.

Against a MNK, SMN has to use their stacks right away less they want to lose their stacks.

Against a DRG, they can hold on to their stacks for more tactical aetherflow usage.
-Even then. PLD/AST/SMN can remove buffs as well.
-A lot easier to take off Aetherflow stacks on a raised[ing] target.

Can someone confirm if Aethertrail is removable or not?

One Ilm Punch is a GCD and spammable where as those dispels are on a long CD.

Ah you know I didn't account for Skewer. I apologize, I don't see a lot of dragoons using it for some reason.


Hmm 15 second duration, 40% Int reduction, 60 second CD. I think Dragon Kick due to being a GCD is a bit more reliably going to be up, especially if you use Skewer for burst, but the fact that you can save it for Magic burst reduction does make it a decent potential utility tool. The % reduction makes it very much stronger than Dragon Kick.

Thanks for posting this. There's always the possibility I could overlook something due to any number of reasons I won't bore you with.

I don't think they're quite even yet but this definitely was good information.

I'm starting to think One Ilm Punch is too strong of a skill to be capable of being spammed.

and I also do believe that I'd like to see a few more opinions on whether DRG should be considered A or S-Tier.

I'd also like a bit of thoughts on the placement of Machinist. I don't feel it's above B Tier but I'm wondering if there might be something I missed involving it but not including its burst.

Also I can't confirm if it's removable or not I'm sorry about this, If I remove something it'll be Aetherflow and if they have Aethertrail already odds are they're going to be in Dreadwyrm before it can be removed, unless they are CC'd as soon as they get it or your One Ilm Punch spam happens to work out like that.

I do believe I've removed it before in Frontlines but I can't say for sure.