Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

[Nyalia]

It cannot fit the intended design. The intended design was that it would be comparable in difficulty to other methods of obtaining 210 weapons, and at the time the only other method was quite difficult. If you seriously think that the entire third step is equivalent to running Void Ark once and earning 490 esoterics, which is the only way for it to still fit the intended design, then you are delusional.

Are you seriously going to make a comparison that only looks at a single step? Talk about cherry picking! To use your argument, if you seriously think that the entire Alexander: Midas Savage raid is equivalent to the fourth step, then you are delusional.

[Berethos]

Are you seriously going to make a comparison that only looks at a single step? Talk about cherry picking! To use your argument, if you seriously think that the entire Alexander: Midas Savage raid is equivalent to the fourth step, then you are delusional.

Why wouldn't I? The 210 to 230 step is not much more involved than the process to get a 230 lore weapon. One requires an easy to obtain 9000 esoterics, the other clearing easy normal content once a week for seven weeks, plus easy to obtain 1k lore.

The oddball out here is the 200 to 210 step. It wasn't when the only 210 weapons available came from savage, but that's no longer the case...and since the intended design for the relic is that it's the time-based equivalent of its equal obtained via raiding, it has to at least somewhat maintain that level of comparability or it no longer fits its intended design.

[Ibi]

Except, it does fit the intended design

Here are Yoshi-P's own words on the design intent of the anima quests:

Since it is currently only possible to obtain an item level 210 weapon from Alexander: Gordias (Savage), the time and effort required to create an Anima weapon was set to be roughly the same level with this as a benchmark.

To paraphrase, the design intent for Anima weapons was (as of the last time it was shared with us) that the time and effort involved should be roughly equivalent to the time and effort involved in obtaining a weapon of the same item level through whatever other methods are available.

With that in mind, is the time and effort required to create an Anima weapon roughly the same as the time and effort required to obtain an item level 210 weapon via another method?

Is the time and effort required to create a hyperconductive Anima weapon currently roughly the same as the time and effort required to obtain an item level 230 weapon via another method?

If the answer to either of those questions is "no" (and you'd be hard pressed to come up with a compelling argument otherwise), then it does not fit the intended design as it was previously specified.

That's obviously not to say that SE can't change their intended design, but all we have to work with regarding their intent is the quote above.

[Felis]

Here are Yoshi-P's own words on the design intent of the anima quests:

Similar to Zodiac weapons, Anima weapons are based on the following concepts.

• Will not be the strongest weapon at the same time as the rewards for clearing the hardest difficulty content.
• Clearing the hardest difficulty content will not require you to obtain Zodiac/Anima weapons.
• Creating these weapons will require you to put in effort over a longer period of time.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...65#post3494765

And because the ilvl 230 step is not about effort over a longer period of time, the ilvl 210 nerf is not coming until the next step with a big grind

[Ibi]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...65#post3494765

And because the ilvl 230 step is not about effort over a longer period of time, the ilvl 210 nerf is not coming until the next step with a big grind

Reducing the unidentified items required even as much as 50% would still leave the Anima weapon taking greater effort over a longer period of time.

[Kallera]

There are four ways to get equipment: Raiding, Tokens, Crafting, and Clearly inferior method of Tokens and Crafting. This is the Grinding method. You can spend Tokens or go Raiding if you prefer those instead.

Fixed that for you, lets not mince words on what the "Grinding" actually is.

[Nyalia]

Fixed that for you, lets not mince words on what the "Grinding" actually is.

Uhh, okay. Sure. But you're wrong. If you want to get nitpicky about the exact mechanics the game uses, rather than looking at what you actually spend your time doing, then there's only tokens. Crafting? You need to get tokens to make mats to make gear. Raiding? You have to replay the content several times until you get the right token, or accumulate enough tokens.

[Mindy_Macready]

So, uhh, do that and don't whine here about how all content should be the way you want it and not the way other people want it? You're not the only one playing this game, you know.

Neither are you. It's hilarious you're criticizing someone for thinking "content should be the way [they] want it and not the way other people want it" yet you're also telling people to accept the way it is because it's the way you happen to enjoy it.

If people didn't complain, then how would anybody hear a dissenting opinion about anything?