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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    I wouldn't be surprised if the better secondaries would at least put ACN on par with SMN, outmatching the higher int which wouldn't even be that much at that point.

    Blood for blood, internal release, aero as bonuses. A small loss of int and getting stuck with carby vs ifrit, idk. 35+ fester would blow it away of course, but there's plenty of other jobs that do worse as the base class.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Essentially the cross class skills you lost are replaced with new job abilities down the line, which are much stronger than Mercy Stroke/Aero/etc. I understand that suddenly not having access to those is jarring, but as you progress you'll see the advantage of unlocking the job.
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    Farabi Sos
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 50
    I was disappointed too when I first lost my precious protect and aero.

    But the job-specific skills I got more than made up for it. Not only powerful, but also fun.
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    Celest Ru'milan
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    This is outside of the box a bit, but you could play scholar!

    High level scholar play has us using alot of those same DoT rotations in between healing bursts. In 4 man dungeons I spend alot of my time in Cleric Stance to help DPS down mobs and use rouse and other abilities to keep the party healed.

    You might actually enjoy Scholar more than Summoner, and you get to keep aero and protect.
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    This is outside of the box a bit, but you could play scholar!

    High level scholar play has us using alot of those same DoT rotations in between healing bursts. In 4 man dungeons I spend alot of my time in Cleric Stance to help DPS down mobs and use rouse and other abilities to keep the party healed.

    You might actually enjoy Scholar more than Summoner, and you get to keep aero and protect.
    Don't forget the biggest advantage sch gets at 30.

    ...queue times!
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Like others have said, when you equip a Job crystal, you only get 5 cross-class skills from two classes, in Summoner's case: Thaumaturge and Archer.
    IF you want to use Conjurer skills like Aero and Protect, you could try Scholar but then you'll be a healer, granted you'll be the healer that is usually designated as the Off-Healer, which means you'll have more chances to DPS in parties.

    The whole classes-get-7-skills-jobs-get-5 thing is from the 1.x, back when they wanted classes to be more for soloing and jobs for party. The 2.0 developers ditched that idea and focused more on the jobs.
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    SMN gets really awesome again after 50, but yes, it's not really customizable.
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    That's just because you are level 31, it gets better as you get higher levels and then at 60 you finally will find the glory that is Ahk Morn!

    Seriously couldn't think of a situation Aero or Protect would even be used or better than other skills smn gets as it levels. You cannot judge a job only half leveled.
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    valoiz2's Avatar
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    Alex Valentine
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Are you dissapointed because of the cross skills? Wait until you start to try to evoke all the primals in Final Fantasy world lol

    But don't get me wrong I really like playing SMN, you won't need any of this cross skill when you reach high level
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    Lee Keramory
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    That's your issue with smn? Not the weak strange looking versions of the primals you control (unlike near every other fc games summoner)? Not the fact it's a DoT class instead of focusing on what should be the overwhelming power of your summon?

    No it's because you can't cast Areo, another DoT.

    /head desk
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