Should tanks ask to do big pulls?

[Keramory]

The thing about big pulls is... It's not just the healer who can fail it. You maybe new but who knew if that tank of yours was geared/popping cool downs or the dps was doing their job. Don't be too hard on yourself.

Whm as it gets geared goes on auto pilot though. There's a few levels/gear points where healing can be tough (the vault) for newer healers but on the flip side you'll find even big pulls are boringly easy for you.

Realistically whm is boringly simple to pull off. Just the basic regen and cure spam will handle any and all big pulls. If you can't handle that, it's the gear or tank. Yeah there are a few things you could do to help (divine seal, presence) but I've never done a non-raid where it saved someone. Just don't forget shroud of saints when you get it for mp

[Lan_Mantear]

It's a judgement call.

As a healer, I let the tank pull as many as he feels comfortable with. If I feel he is pulling too much for me to heal, I say so.

As a tank, I'll usually tell the healer to let me know if I am pulling too much. Then pull as many as I feel the group can handle. If AOE dmg is lacking, I'll pull smaller groups, but if it's a SMN+BLM combo or the like, I'm gonna pull everything possible. Unless the healer says otherwise.

[sevvv]

tbh I never ask cause I just assume most people want a fast run, but if someone in the party is asking for less pulls,or i see the healer is struggling, or the party composition isn't optimal for big pulls then I won't do it.

[AriaEnia]

Well for me it depends on the DPSes' composition. If it has one SMN or one BLM, it's a big pull run, if they are DRG, MNK, BRD, MCH, etc which are not aoe focused classes, I just pull one pack at a time. So far no one's complaining and I keep getting commendations at least one in one dungeon run.

[Kallera]

I find a party that pulls normally and succeeds is often faster than a party that pulls too fast and wipes. requests are fine, but If the dps or healer decide to take matters into their own hands, Ill try to save the situation but its on them if a wipe occurs.

[Launched]

No, because even a monkey should be able to spam Cure/Cure II. A healer shouldn't be able to get to the level where big pulls are relevant and not know how to heal.

[Hayward]

No, because even a monkey should be able to spam Cure/Cure II. A healer shouldn't be able to get to the level where big pulls are relevant and not know how to heal.

Let me guess: You FATEd your way to 60 as a WHM. That would be the only explanation for that ridiculous post.

[Launched]

Let me guess: You FATEd your way to 60 as a WHM. That would be the only explanation for that ridiculous post.

No, I spent every level from 45+ nearly empty on MP from Holy in dungeons because healing is so easy.

[Laerune]

As a group we need to communicate and not let the burden of teamwork be put on one player. Should the tank discuss if he or she wants to pull a big group? YES! But as a healer, you too can tell the tank if they should pull big or not. We gamers are not mind readers, if someone wants to do something or you expect something from others, then tell them this.

When I tank, I take one of these 3 routes.
Route A: I ask partymembers if they are oke with me pulling a big group, depending on their answer, I adapt.
Route B: Nobody is saying anything, so I check the classes + gear and act according to this. If I have AoE classes in my group and the healer has good gear, I will pull a big group. If I am not reading any complains about the big pulls, I will continue pulling big groups.
Route C: I pull a big group and notice that the healer is not dpsing and sitting on large manapool. When I see this, I pull only big groups. If the healer is dpsing, I will support him, by pulling a small pack, so they can dps aswell.

Gamers during a instance expect too much, we should communicate more.

[16bitBounty]

I haven't been asking. I learn the dungeons a certain way and try to replicated that in my tank runs. I haven't had any issues with healers not being able to keep up. No one has complained. I won't deviate my run if someone asks for something different. Just slows the run down overall because I'm doing things I haven't practiced.