Should tanks ask to do big pulls?

[MicahZerrshia]

When I enter a dungeon on healer I always assume pulls will be big, esp if there is a smn/blm in the pt. If they are not I spend most my time in dps stance and if I am dpsing more than healing I will tell the tank to pull more. If the tank is new and not comfortable with big pulls, I will just stay in dps stance as much as possible to speed things up a bit. It's all in how comfortable you are in the job.

If you are new to healing be sure to look beyond your simple cures too. Like learning to use your other spells/abilities to minimize damage on pulls will do nothing but make your life easier...unless you are a healer who insists on regen for pulls, then the mobs will eat you alive lol

[Shurrikhan]

If my healer has the gear, and I've got two high-AoE dps with me, I'll assume they're good with large pulls. It's great if there's at least one pull before a big one, though, as it lets me see if my healer is capable. If they're not making use of higher-potency tools, don't Cleric, and/or spend GCDs idle, I will definitely rethink my assumption that I can mass-pull. Even if it's not my fault directly, I certainly consider having seen and ignored signs of below-average (read: typically assumable) play that may result in wasted time and CDs as my fault. That said, if I ever back down because of such, I'll usually ask the others to step up their output so that we can mass-pull as soon as seems possible.

As a healer, some of the best advice I've seen is to not be afraid of scaring the hell out of your tank--just be sure they never die; call them out, even, if they panic CD. The more you can do to make use of your time while (even if just barely) keeping them alive, the better you'll also be at keeping them alive when you lack that time. Get used to panic-situations, rather than panicking in what will for many players be the norm.

That said, if a tank requests the impossible, don't be afraid to tell them as much, or state your preferences.

[Dark_Legacy]

I pull huge and go go go, gotta go fast. That said if the party can't handle it, I'm not going to leave or belittle anyone I just slow it down a bit.

[DevilsDontFly]

I main tank and heals. When I'm tanking I take a look at the healer's level and awareness of the situation (had to deal with a few afk-for-days-SCH who let the fairy do all the job while they are on netflix) so it varies. But after so many time healing, it gets to a point you start feeling bored if the tank don't pull big.

Healing is only exciting if everybody's at the edge of KO stats all the time. LOL

But on a side note it gets easier as you level up and eventually you'll get used to handle big numbers of damage.
So yeah, they should ask or at least take 1 minute to examine your healer and see if you can heal the upcoming damage without stressing out. The tank's job is to protect, not wipe and cause heart attacks.

[Joe_Schmoe]

I'd say yes, if only out of courtesy. Not everyone you run with is going to be accustomed to boss-to-boss pulling. They should at least get a fair warning first. Usually though I'll often say at the very start of a run that I'm still fairly new to healing (mostly leves and FATEs), which is a preemptive way of saying "Go nuts, at your own risk". Some heed it, others don't.

[Youkulm]

As a healer, I always assume a tank is going to do large pulls. It's not your fault you can't handle it yet though. You will get to a point where you're confident enough in your healing skills that warning isn't needed and you'll also be annoyed when the tank doesn't do large pulls hahaha.

[Reinth]

Should you ask? No.

[KaijinRhada]

Big pulls are normal and expected, so I tend to do them, unless some one says something, or if I feel that the party can't handle it. Like some one new to an instance, if you're not comfortable with it, let them know; it's just like when I'm healing, I let people know if I'm a bit rusty or if they can pull more if they please. If it doesn't work, there could be various factors to it failing, so it isn't always automatically the healer or the tank.

Now, as a tank, I can't always judge the quality of players by gear, so the first pull will set the pace of the instance. If I do have a pet peeve with large pulls, it's usually not with healers, but with DPS (I especially eye other monks as I main one, and most that I run into don't realize their full potential for AoE). It's a minor annoyance seeing people that are capable of AoEing not doing an AoE rotation, but it's especially annoying when DPS and/or healers ask for large pulls and pull abysmal numbers in their respective role, making the pull last longer than it should.

Lately, I've been back to queueing as a monk with my BF as a BLM, and I have had more than one tank scale their pulls back when they see me. We just tell them to pull big, and they're often surprised to see that we wreck mobs without breaking a sweat. While I want to say that it shouldn't be a surprise that a monk can pull monstrous AoE numbers, the quality of DF is... well... lacking more often than not.

[Kuzonoha]

As a tank player, depending on the dungeon, my experience with said dungeon and gear, I'll ask if the healer doesn't mind bigger pulls. I'll only ask after seeing how the party does for the first few initial pulls, how the healer is holding up, whether or not he/she is DPS'ing...

Sometimes I won't ask if it's evident that stuff can be steamrolled and the party you know, and works as a team.

Either way, I play relatively safe at first because wipes will make a run take longer.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

It is sort of Darwinian, what happens when a tank does a big pull that the healer cannot sustain healing for, people die, tank learns he should have either asked first or should not do them and the party adapts the hard way, via trial and error. The above is the rough and negative way to go about it with likely more chances for conflict and frustration in what is likely a duty roulette qued run. I advise an easier, less chance for conflict method: At the beginning of the run simply ask the tank if he/she will do big pulls.

Also for tanks, I gather that the point of the big pulls is to speed things up but if it will result in deaths because healer did not know, it will be counter productive to the goal of haste so it might help to let people know at the beginning of the run that you are doing big pulls. Normally I see the tanks notifying us of this so I figured it was the norm to do so.

Good luck <3