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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    It takes like maybe two, three days if you're diligent.
    What more do you want? Press button instant max level? Ugh
    Two or three days of doing nothing but grinding fates and spamming the same dungeons over and over is literally the most unfun thing you can do in this game. You say that, but how fun is that really? Don't you want to feel rewarded, and shouldn't it be easier the more levels you have?

    Why are you defending something so utterly pointless and monotonous? Especially with the way class balance is, maybe they want to try a new class?
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    Despair Senpai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Two or three days of doing nothing but grinding fates and spamming the same dungeons over and over is literally the most unfun thing you can do in this game. You say that, but how fun is that really? Don't you want to feel rewarded, and shouldn't it be easier the more levels you have?
    Why should you be rewarded for putting in less effort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjspencer4 View Post
    Why should you be rewarded for putting in less effort?
    Getting a level 60 is effort. Getting another 60 for 100% more experience is less effort yes, but its still effort. Getting another one for more experience is less effort, yes. However its still effort. Your defending something mindless, because there is a huge set of skills you need to learn and the ability to play a class well depends on max level. You don't really learn that well doing low level dungeons and spamming aoes in fates. Which is what pretty much everyone does. The class quests alone do well in teaching you how to use abilities themselves. This does nothing but takes away monotony.

    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    No

    I spend that time learning the class. If you want to zerg it and get to max as fast as possible without knowing what you're doing, then I guess mindless FATE grinding is your punishment for that.

    Just because you CAN have all classes doesn't mean you NEED to. For example, I'm probably never going to touch MNK again until I've literally done everything else in game. If you're a completionist? Then just hit that FATE train and get your max level then store that weapon away or whatever.
    Ok, but that takes even more time. That would take months if you avoid doing fates. That is your choice. However, there is no reason to punish everyone else for that. What is the reason for making someone who already got to 60, or 60 again, make them do the same fates and dungeons again with the same effort. Especially someone who is trying to find the class they like or want to play the most.

    I am talking about what 90% of everyone smart does. They figure out that level 15-50 that fates are the best and only way to level at a fun rate.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 03-29-2016 at 04:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Two or three days of doing nothing but grinding fates and spamming the same dungeons over and over is literally the most unfun thing you can do in this game. You say that, but how fun is that really? Don't you want to feel rewarded, and shouldn't it be easier the more levels you have?
    No

    I spend that time learning the class. If you want to zerg it and get to max as fast as possible without knowing what you're doing, then I guess mindless FATE grinding is your punishment for that.

    Just because you CAN have all classes doesn't mean you NEED to. For example, I'm probably never going to touch MNK again until I've literally done everything else in game. If you're a completionist? Then just hit that FATE train and get your max level then store that weapon away or whatever.
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    Alaric Hohenheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    No

    I spend that time learning the class. If you want to zerg it and get to max as fast as possible without knowing what you're doing, then I guess mindless FATE grinding is your punishment for that.
    This so much. The kind of person you just described with that are the Dragoons not using Heavy Thrust. Black mage using Fire3 over and over, tanks using provoke mid rotation. Running dungeons is a incredibly efficient way of leveling now. People are just lazy.
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    Alyssin Kiger
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Two or three days of doing nothing but grinding fates and spamming the same dungeons over and over is literally the most unfun thing you can do in this game. You say that, but how fun is that really? Don't you want to feel rewarded, and shouldn't it be easier the more levels you have?

    Why are you defending something so utterly pointless and monotonous? Especially with the way class balance is, maybe they want to try a new class?
    If you want all your classes at level 60 you'll just have to suck it up and start grinding. The rest of us managed to pull it off, you can too.
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