I really hope 3.25 has ast shield nerf. (4v4)

[Maddonious]

Its bad. Its gotten so bad in 4v4 with good ast. Their teams become unkillable. They run around spamming the strongest shield in the game instantly with DRs not dropping fast enough to even give you a shot at slowing them.

Just do it already SE. You want this to be truly competitive then you need to make it so they have to use some skill and not spam one ability. Im already aware it was nerfed in 3.2 but the amount it protected against wasn't the issue biggest issue, it was the instant cast that was always the issue.

All they do in 4v4 now is run back and forth behind a wall to LoS everything and just slamming shield when they pop out making them unfocusable. The only way currently to kill a good ast or the teammates they're protecting is to literally use every single cooldown, pray to Halone they don't have DR on them, worry they don't LoS (yeah right), and hope that no one on their team (or them) has purify available to help them and hope you have the right classes for the proper burst.

Please SE im begging you. Get a cast timer on their shield in pvp to remove this blatant abuse of an op Skill. Get them closer to sch level of play ability. Let us have a chance to kill them or their teammates when they are scared, running for their lives, with less then 20 % hp left like life intended.

If you dont wanna put a cast time on the shield then make it cost twice as much mana as it does now to avoid them abusing it. If they want to then they will soon find themselves losing more mp then they can recover allowing us to kill that way.
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I could also go on a rant about how DRs should be lowered as it hinders gameplay for certain classes that relay on them *cough* blm *cough*. I'll be here all week folks.

Some people will pry come in here and say its fine or I just need to "get gud" (but its about whole teams that cant penetrate the shields). I say my rant is more insightful look at balance while others will just say im crying for cryings sake. We'll agree to disagree.

[NoelNoel]

Curious to read more opinions about that, as I personally feel Nocturnal AST is the worst of the 4 healers (if we divide AST in 2). The nerf was so bad I feel if the dmg is good or dots start being spread out the AST just can't keep up.

[Pomelo]

AST shield potency is NOT the strongest in the game at all lmao
It has a nerf in pvp so the shield is of lesser value, it also is instant which is also at times a hindrance, as your GCD is cooling leaving you to do nothing at all, its single target meaning if people are being bursted left right and centre an AST struggles to keep up.

[RiceisNice]

No. Astro shields already have a 50% reduction in shield potency from the heal. On top of that, their HPS (espesically if they're relying on aspected benefic) is extremely poor on a group level. Their primary advantage is just that; they can cast instant heals while moving, but thats only a 250 potency heal on a single target.

Curious to read more opinions about that, as I personally feel Nocturnal AST is the worst of the 4 healers (if we divide AST in 2). The nerf was so bad I feel if the dmg is good or dots start being spread out the AST just can't keep up.

IMO, diurnal wouild be the worst of the two. It's literally a poor man's WHM without the CC or self-preservation options (like sacred prism, which people really seem to underrate). They both have their distinct sets of strengths and weaknesses, but diurnal imo plays less to the astro's inherent strengths (aspected benefic being instant cast, thus the ability to kite). If your party's dps can't burst down one of their dps, a diurnal astro is gonna get dropped very quickly if they realize this and turn their focus targets onto him.

[Houston009]

I could also go on a rant about how DRs should be lowered as it hinders gameplay for certain classes that relay on them *cough* blm *cough*. I'll be here all week folks.

Some people will pry come in here and say its fine or I just need to "get gud" (but its about whole teams that cant penetrate the shields). I say my rant is more insightful look at balance while others will just say im crying for cryings sake. We'll agree to disagree.

The attempt on trying to shield yourself from the fact that AST is not OP is astonishing. Its not even the strongest shield in the game, the shield itself is weaker than the healing it does in PvP. Aspected Benefic has already been balanced by cutting the shield it erects in half. What you are trying to do is take away a core aspect of AST in PvP, being a mobile Healer. With the interrupt changes, Healers (WHM/SCH included) practically have infinite Surecast with their kit. If you are truly trying to balance AST, look at WHM/SCH kit as well.

DRs last for 1min. BLM has Sleep,Heavy,and Bind (and baby Slow) that you can use and abuse, you just need to learn your timing, and to not randomly CC for the sake of CC'ing. Sleep,Heavy, and Bind all have DIFFERENT DR timers, so Bind will not put Sleep on DR. The core play style of BLM is learning your DR timers and when to CC.

I really really really hope that your "insightful" look at balance isn't from 4v4 Solo play.

[dwDrama]

straigus the reyist dropping mad insight.

no.1 fan <<<<<<

[Blitzace]

AST shield was a problem in 72 matches. Even with the 50% Nerf its still probably one of the best things you can have in your small 4v4 lol.

And in all honesty, i never had issues with the AST shield spams in bigger matches, A good burst, followed by a stun->LB and they were done. But considering you do not have that many LB opportunities in 4v4...

[Lilith_Merquise]

lol I've fought ASTs, they are just fine as is, they already got their nerf, leave em alone, and get good. Frankly the current state of this game is the most balanced PVP has ever been. There are obvious flavor of the months like MCH, DRG, MNK, WAR, and AST, but they are pretty close in balance and are not so imbalanced like WAR/SMN was in Frontlines.

[Dimitrii]

If you find Noct ast so hard to deal with even though the last nerf noticeably crippled them then you must lose every match against a whm seeing how vastly superior whm is now amongst all heals.

[Exira]

Like its been said before...can we not balance around the solo queue dps who can't kill ASTs. They really aren't as powerful as people claim on these forums.