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    Player
    Confidence_Trick's Avatar
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    Foedral Fell
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    We have the coolest Anima weapon, so there's that. Also we have Plunge which is the single best thing ever. On those very rare occasions where I use a tank that is not a DRK I think "This is all very well but where's the Plunge?"
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    Sephorai Sertorius
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    They shoulda been a DPS >_> this is what happens when you take a traditionally damage focused archetype then try to do something "new" and inverse it ._.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephorai View Post
    They shoulda been a DPS >_> this is what happens when you take a traditionally damage focused archetype then try to do something "new" and inverse it ._.
    the funny is in the older ff they never have tank clases, only dps and healers, and the sage can dealt high damage and heal in the same time so nope, drk dps like paladin like dragoon like warrios and a large ect in the older ones.

    the only think they change in this game is sacrifice, now is know like darkside and sacrifice MP instead of HP to increse our attack power, accep it, this is a MMO how heavy armor clases are tank, or complaing why our paladins can't be dps like cecil was.
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Fun idea. Put spike aura ALA vengeance on Shadowskin/ShadowWall and Magic Counter on Dark Mind. Make counter attack damage the same as what the skills reduce damage by. So 20% 30% and 15%/30% respectively.

    Could be fun.

    Does nothing for OT however. But we would get armor spikes.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Except a Dark Knight can far out dps even the strongest of magic casters in actual true to form FF games. Not so in special snowflake MMO FF XIV that wants to reinvent the wheel but just came up with a rugged boulder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Except a Dark Knight can far out dps even the strongest of magic casters in actual true to form FF games. Not so in special snowflake MMO FF XIV that wants to reinvent the wheel but just came up with a rugged boulder.
    in middle game yeah, in the end all clases dealt a max 9999hit so nope
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    in middle game yeah, in the end all clases dealt a max 9999hit so nope
    You mentioned something similar in the other thread, and that is way beside the point. You're missing it completely. Also, FFXI is an mmo, and they had DRK right. But nevermind that, I'm happy that you're happy it's a tank in FFXIV. Just understand why people can be pissed off at some things when they're spot on, and don't try to change their minds by debating something that's actually a fact.
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    Last edited by Tanathya; 04-03-2016 at 02:20 AM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    in middle game yeah, in the end all clases dealt a max 9999hit so nope
    Really just proving my point that DRK hit as hard as dps but with heavy armor. End of discussion.
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    yeah im undertand why ppl dont like this version of drk for wathever reason, but complaing for everiting over and over and over againg makes this is the only section of the forum how ppl complain for this job in particular and dont undertand this is FFXIV, this is not ff1,ff2, ff3 ect ect ect, in fact every ff have they own version of the clases with minor changes, i dont see ppl complain why cid dont have the iconical dragoon armor in ff7 or in dps forums why the blm can't dealt top dps only with ice spells.

    every ff have they own identity and in this one, drk is a tank, and the best dps in MT mode, end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    yeah im undertand why ppl dont like this version of drk for wathever reason, but complaing for everiting over and over and over againg makes this is the only section of the forum how ppl complain for this job in particular and dont undertand this is FFXIV, this is not ff1,ff2, ff3 ect ect ect, in fact every ff have they own version of the clases with minor changes, i dont see ppl complain why cid dont have the iconical dragoon armor in ff7 or in dps forums why the blm can't dealt top dps only with ice spells.

    every ff have they own identity and in this one, drk is a tank, and the best dps in MT mode, end.
    You're also complaining. And it's not for whatever reason. You obviously don't understand why (you just proved it there in this post), so really, just let it go and let's discuss FFXIV's. Please?
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