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  1. #101
    Player
    CoolCat's Avatar
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    Cocoon Ravi
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    Behemoth
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    Armorer Lv 90
    I know there are many reasons why a person might not want to tank, but is tanking for randoms that bad? I always pop in DF for roulette and I don't get anything that "bad". Big pulls, small pulls I rarely see someone getting angry at whatever pace something happens, nor someone saying,"hey its a boss turn off ur tank stance". I won't say I am perfect in tanking everything, cuz sometimes I would notice I screw something up. Most of the time everyone in the party don't say a thing and just goes through the dungeon. Sure sometimes I would get someone in the party try to run ahead to mobs, but hey the aoes are down, others are attacking, we are going to stay here and fight. Its super rare for me to see someone bitch about it. I like tanking in the end though.
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  2. #102
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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    Silver Tiger
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    Kujata
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    Monk Lv 80
    well tanking is always scary at first in df if you don't know the healer, the dps are like mass pull plz and healer just remains silent, well the dps dont ask mass pulls its just commonly agreed thats how you do it room to room.

    like new healer i do a light pull to start with to test healer then dps abuses you, to many times have I started a mass pull and then wind up dead cause healer either wanted to dps or just was super bad.

    and in a mass pull who gets blamed for the wipe if tank dies? the tank cause the healers defence is to just say its not my fault tank dident use cds while healer wasent even trying to heal.

    So to sum this up i dont tank unless I know the healer nowadays and bairly df as tank.
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  3. #103
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    cougarel's Avatar
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    Sophia Miyuki
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    Spriggan
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    White Mage Lv 90
    To answer blunt : yes there is a lot of pressure on tanks to perform good. I changed my main to be a healer even if it was main tank for over 8 months. And people that are saying that a tank is just a dps with mitigation skills and a healer as well -> do play the higher instances and then provide feedback. It went so bad that I wanted to quit the game-> and no not because I hate tanking or that I suck at it. Before posting your point of view, try the higher instances and then post.
    And to be honest -> yes there a lot of jackass tanks (i know a few as well) that really suck at setting the pace and want to run the dungeon even if the healer can not maintain the healing. But the same thing i can say about dps and healers as well. Point is as many have said before : play with people you know and leave the anger out of the game as by providing some rules or info it will make it run smooth.
    Oh and yes, as a tank i rather cut my wrist than do df .
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    Last edited by cougarel; 03-28-2016 at 06:50 PM. Reason: because i can

  4. #104
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Etoile Kallera
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I love tanking, I hate the guilt that comes with tanking.

    Knowing that you are spending another few minutes doing something over again because you were where you need to be, or not clear with your instructions, or you got killed wondering about using cooldowns.

    Then you get a front row seat to watch it all fall apart from your (in)action.

    It honestly makes me want to say nasty terrible things when one of the other roles gets an instruction squeezed through party chat, but doesn't follow through with it for one reason or another. Learning parties feel like a race, and one where you hope you don't screw up first. I tend to be quiet, and accomodating, but the fact that it is mostly strangers in pf and df makes the idea of being the rude one with all the profanity and rage, just for once, tempting. More for myself than any desire to see Rando Deeps improve.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 03-28-2016 at 09:45 PM.

  5. #105
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    Worldofwarcraft's Avatar
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    Has Boob
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Tanking is scary for most people. They don't want to take lead, screw up, and be yelled at.
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  6. #106
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    Luxea's Avatar
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    Luxea Dawnlight
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KoroushSensei View Post
    when i am in a dungeon and our tank decides to leave or dc it takes a long time for another one to appear
    I don't hate tanking, it's the easiest role of the 3 (arguably the same as healer or easier). I sometimes do it for fun, but I always bring the rest of the party with me in the que. If I'm queing as healer or dps, I still bring a tank (and healer). This way, I can speedrun everything and not have to run into healers who cannot heal 4 trash mobs in high lvl areas/healers who whines when DPS take a little damage/when a BLM wants to fire 1 spam on a trash mob on the far corner of the trash room while tank and healer and other dps is dealing with 10 other ones/DPS who autoattack, etc.

    I don't even find tanks hard to find, I collected a good collection of them in my linkshell and they either came as very good tanks or tanks whom I helped to train :3
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    Last edited by Luxea; 03-28-2016 at 10:43 PM. Reason: wanted to elaborate

  7. #107
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    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    I find Tanking to be extremely stressy.

    Have I pulled enough, have I popped the right CD's? Are they in a good position...which way do I dodge so everyone can keep their positional bonus?
    Can I switch to DPS stance now?

    It's such a shame that I like the PLD Eso gear >.<
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  8. #108
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    FritoBandito's Avatar
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    Frito Bandito
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 60
    I've been messing around with tanking recently. Got my PLD to 30s and WAR is 40s. What I can say is I wish there were more AoE abilities for crowd-control. Maybe there will be at higher levels, but if so then I think those should be available at lower levels. Crowd control is something that is needed starting with the first dungeon and if it were up to me each tanking class would have two abilities. "But you can just spam Flash" yeah I get it but what fun is that? With two, one could chain off the other and make tanking groups a little easier and also keep it interesting instead of just spamming the same thing over and over.

    I know I'm probably part of the minority with this. I'm also one of the few who actually LIKED paladin tanking in WoW (which, for those not in the know, gets a lot of flak for being the easiest tanking class).
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  9. #109
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sailysium View Post
    While most agree with you, I'd refrain from saying it's harder as opposed to just higher responsibility placed when picking up tanking.
    I have to agree with this quote. As someone that is playing all 3 roles, I can say that Tanking is not harder, its the responsibility that scares players away from this role.
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  10. #110
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    karateorangutang's Avatar
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    Celest Ru'milan
    World
    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Agreed with most, tanking has a level of stress to it as you need to know pull patterns in addition to rotations... but rotations are easier and pulling isnt difficult at all.

    Out of all 3 roles I'm willing to say its harder to be a top tier DPS then anything else. That's my opinion though.
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