Question about Divine Veil

[Zari]

So I've only recently decided to start using one of my tanks in endgame (generally only used my healers and dps so far in the lv 60 endgame) and I've been wondering something about Divine Veil.

Mainly, if I were to do something like crossclass cure, would I be able to activate it myself by using a cure on myself so as to not have to rely on a healer activating it or is a healer activating it the only option?

[Frost_Tear]

That does work. Same with casting clemency on yourself

[Zari]

That does work. Same with casting clemency on yourself

Alright. Was wondering about that. If that is the case than cure might actually be worth taking cc since it doesnt cost much mp compared to clemency and would only be used to activate divine veil anyways

[Phileas]

I usually time it when healers are topping up prior to raidwide damage ( eg. Before seph ex p3 begins.

Can use clemency to activate it. Cross class cure cast is a but too long and not worth the slot imo but it costs less mp than clem i guess.

[Zari]

I usually time it when healers are topping up prior to raidwide damage ( eg. Before seph ex p3 begins.

Can use clemency to activate it. Cross class cure cast is a but too long and not worth the slot imo but it costs less mp than clem i guess.

So it would be better to use clemency to activate it if necessary? Don't they have the same cast time? I just want to be sure which would be better so I know whether it is worth it or not

[GeekMatt]

It was just recently modified so that you can heal yourself for it to activate. Having Cure as an option isn't a bad idea altogether, but the two issues I see is 1) the cast time, because a healer might set it off before you, or you might set it off too late and 2) I wouldn't want to remove any of my crossclass skills for it.

[JackFross]

The thing with Cure v Clemency is that the only reason you'd use Cure instead to proc it is for Mana reasons. The problem with this line of thinking is that Divine Veil is 120s recast. Your mana is not a precious resource. You /never/ use it. Every time you wanna use Divine Veil (Primal limit break, A8S laser during the interim phase) you already have max mana anyway. C:

[Levaru]

...Your mana is not a precious resource. You /never/ use it...

I find it weird that people think Pallys don't use MP. Maybe its just me and my mana hungry ways when I tank, but if there are 3 or more mobs I still use flash in my rotation.
And I use clemency whenever necessary, even if I have a good healer. Since clemency is in between cure 1/2 most of the time, I'll pop it when I'm at 50% and know I'll be taking damage soon to make the healers life easier.

And something I've rarely seen from other Pallys is healing other people. I've made it a goal of mine to start healing DPS and other members during raids since when OT I sometimes have nothing better to do.

I've been kicked from a dungeon for waiting on my MP to regen after a wipe since the healer wasn't doing a his job and I had to rely on sustaining my self.

I know that most Pallys use less MP than a Dark knight, which most people think of when they think tanks doing MP management.

[KorenA]

I use it w/ cure always unless a healer is already healing me, it's no reason to use it with clemency at all.

[Malicewolf]

There's a few things you can do here. I personally LOVE using Divine Veil. Its great if you know party wide dmg is coming. I've prevented all dmg from going through with healer's stacking their galvanize with my DV and it's glorious. Especially if we end up with some people still with one up :P

I bring cure along with me. Personally, I have cure, foresight, protect, stoneskin, and bloodbath (not in that order). I gave up Mercy stroke in this particular case (which I'm sure many will complain about...). You could easily exchange something else though. Clemency will take up a little over 1/3 of your MP, but you really shouldn't need to spam it much. It's best to use if you can just place it before your healer gives you a heal. DV lasts for 30 seconds, so you have a decent window of time to get it up prior to the party wide dmg. But if you have to use clemency, it's really not the biggest of deals. Just use a sheltron and a goring blade combo afterwards. You'll get a decent chunk of MP back from the sheltron, you'll get back some more from riot blade and then you'll get up your DoT with goring blade, so it's not a waste.

I really only bring cure because i like to mess around with it and tell people I'll heal :P So it's more so a joke for me, but I do use it to activate my DV since I have it and it costs less. For serious play, if you run into a moment when you NEED the MP for 3 immediate clemency's, then you have some other problems to worry about in you group. More so, why are your healers not doing this? Only reason I can think of is they are dead and if they are, seldom will your Clemency's be the deciding factor between wipe and save (but it has happened). I have solo'd the last bit of Titan Ex unsync'd when the rest of my party wiped from Landslides... but very seldom is stuff like that going to happen or be needed. But usually by the time you want to use a clemency, you'll have not used any MP for long enough that it's regen'd fully anyways.