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  1. #11
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    konage's Avatar
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    Devenu De'lune
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Feast is terrible, enough said. It's SE way to make "competitive" pvp for the masses. Competitive and casual does not go well together
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  2. #12
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    nobody is going to bother taking fetter ward off you because there is no point.

    it lasts for 12 seconds plus pld/ast skill is on cd and is a waste if you're going for fetter ward and mnk is gcd. by the time mnk has gotten round to taking fetter ward off from all the other buffs you have, fetter ward would be nearly up.

    sounds to me like you're complaining for no reason. learn to LB bud.
    This. Who bothers to try to intentionally remove fetter ward via dispel effect lol?
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  3. #13
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    Makasita Fenrir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Problem i noticed is that if i dont take them then nobody will take them, either you grab them all or let them rot in ground untill despawn. Sure you can shout in chat but usually with randoms none of them even reads it because they are busy at zerging a healer that has 0 medals....
    Yeah, this is my biggest issue. Nobody grabs medals when they drop, but as soon as I die from picking them up, all the armchair generals come crawling out to demand why I'm taking all the medals as DPS. Maybe you should get them then, 7 medal healer?
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    #gitgud

    Ongoing mission: Tank everything on DRG. On purpose.

  4. #14
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Sure you can shout in chat but usually with randoms none of them even reads it because they are busy at zerging a healer that has 0 medals....
    Or, in some cases, they've actually turned off chat because "PvPers are too toxic to talk to." No joke, there are actually people proud of turning off their chat in Ranked...
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  5. #15
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    Maddonious's Avatar
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    Maddonious Mastothous
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    That's the entire point of heavy medal though; you don't want to encourage the other team to stack all the medals on one player.
    The point was to stop tanks from hoarding them all, not act like a permanent handicap to allow the other team to win. I have so many matches where my groups destroys the enemy team but due to how long each match is the game it gives them culling time to try to take back the medals they lost. I understand the reason for this system but atm its being abused as a last min win against a slightly better team. Its punishing teams that barely get an advantage in a fight against a group of similar skill and just allows them a huge time window to try to take it back. By the end the healer is pry out of mp and we have no way to stop the damage increases on our guys.

    The heavy medals buffs currently are not fair to the better teams. I understand you have to spread the medals out to reduce the chance of one target being super squishy but then it just makes EVERYONE on the team weaker to damage and as a blm/mch/brd/smn you dont want to be even squishier then you are before just because your team was better. That is not a fair system to allow the other team a handicap, its just not.

    Just give us a lvl 60 wolfs den if SE wants it to be faster. Not this medal bullshit that is horribly handicapping a better team.

    Competitive....... HA! I dont see DoTa giving the losing team 50k free gold to try to make a comeback.
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    Last edited by Maddonious; 03-28-2016 at 06:19 PM.

  6. #16
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    I'm... just tired of the Feast. So tired. And I see it in the streamers that play it as well. You can see it in their eyes, and the tone of their voice. They start off the stream all happy. "I'm having fun!" And then the losses take their toll. Terrible groups. Last minute losses to melee LB. Trolls. Bots. So many situations you can literally do nothing about. There's a feeling of hopelessness that sets in after a while. You queue in, hoping against hope, that maybe this time, you'll get the good players you recognize on your team, but no... It's that AST who spends more time humping the floor than healing. It's that DRG that ignores focus targets, and runs in with 5 stacks. It's that DRK who spends the entire match in tank stance, and beats on the other tank. It's that BRD who doesn't understand how to use the PvP song when the healer is OOM, and doesn't know how Blood for Blood works.

    And it's every. Single. Match. Watching your rating plummet, like a falling rock. Going from almost gold, to 500 purgatory again. Seeing the same depression hit all your friends in the Feast.

    I've had my friends tell me to just walk away, and stop playing, because they can hear the frustration in me building after every pathetic loss.

    I had so many hopes... So many. Finally, something I could enjoy. Instead, I'm starting to hate myself. To hate the game. To hate every horrible scrub who decides to enter the Feast, and fail over, and over, and over again. To see the names of the players on your team, and know immediately how the match is going to go. There's the healer who can't stay alive for 5 seconds. There's the tunnel vision DPS... And, oh. The trifecta. The tank who's going to run into the enemy base with all the medals he picked up, provided we actually manage to get any.

    If this is the "Competitive PvP" SE has to offer, then as soon as I get my Gloria mount, I'm out. I'm done. I've been a PvPer for over a decade. It's what I do, what I have always done in every MMO that allows me to do so. But this... garbage? It's killing any desire to PvP at all in this game.
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  7. #17
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    Maddonious Mastothous
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    snip
    -----This is mostly related to 4v4 (solo) as I find 8v8 is way way way more balanced overall. (but bad players in 8v8 still ahere to my post)
    My frustration is building each day too. I've stopped screaming due to my throat getting to sore and just resort to crying now when a player on my team screws up our victory with less then a min left. You can always tell when members on your team are not doing eveything they can to kill the other members. I see so many get away with literal 1 hit left because the tanks/melee forget they have ranged attacks (well not mnk).

    The amount of stupidity and lack of commonsense in this mode, paired with the fact that it doesn't group up similar ranks together and just forces you to play with the unranked casuals, has made me think some dark thoughts. It makes me question how the human race has survived so long up to this point when people, with an entire min of planning at the start ,say nothing and cant follow the single instruction they are given by me..... "Only focus the marked target". I have tanks/dps just attack whoever they want like they never even acknowledged my instructions. They join pvp in hopes of achieving glory of solo killing someone or just to farm lore most likely. I handle the markings, I handle the plan at the start, I handle the macros and alerts........ and they cant follow one, or any, of the simplest instructions I could type out beyond "run" (which they ignore anyway thinking they can kill that guy with the healer protecting him all alone). It makes me weep for humanity, it really does.

    Once I get my mount im walking away and never looking back. This mode failed so hard out of the gate that eventually people will just use it to farm lore and give up on trying to attain anything related to pvp. Its a joke, a complete and utter joke and SE should feel ashamed at what they have created. You cant just toss a game mode into a game unfinished.
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    Last edited by Maddonious; 03-28-2016 at 07:18 PM.

  8. #18
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maddonious View Post
    The point was to stop tanks from hoarding them all, not act like a permanent handicap to allow the other team to win.
    This is hardly the case unless you allow it to happen due to tunnel visioning or recklessly picking medals up. First death drops 50 medals, thats only enough for 1 stack. If you do a complete party wipe on the enemy team, they each drop 50, totaling up to 600 for a win (and no one ever goes above a stack). If you kill the same person twice, they drop 25 medals on their second death, totaling 175 medals on one person if they picked up both instances for two stacks. That's a problem on a non-tank (which is why I disagree with the change to begin with), but at the same time, a tank scoffs off a 30% damage penalty. Or someone else picks up the medals and they get no stacks because the first threshold is at 150 medals. If you were evenly distributing out the medals, it wouldn't get so far out of hand that you'll become a high profile target, even 1 stacks on a non-tank is manageable, provided they aren't doing something stupid like B4B.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maddonious View Post
    Competitive....... HA! I dont see DoTa giving the losing team 50k free gold to try to make a comeback.
    While the competitive nature of feast is a joke for other reasons, DotA gives a massive gold reward (and a massive gold loss for the person that dies). It still becomes a high stake game if you manage to flunk up due to the longer respawn times at your level and the massive gold payout to the other team.
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  9. #19
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Maddonious View Post
    It makes me question how the human race has survived so long
    Almost spilled my morning coffee all over the keyboard >_<

    Lack of commonsense today in all areas of daily life is scary and i wonder how long humanity can survive before extinction, you can see it everywhere specially in games or in anything that requires even small tought process. Hell some peoples cant even find information eventho we are living a age of information abundance thanks to internet and google, not sure if i should blame technology for dumping down humanity or what.
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    Last edited by Synestra; 03-29-2016 at 12:35 AM.

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