MCH PVP Nerfs!? Really!?

[fm_fenrir]

when was that 30% nerf?

The VIT change in 3.2 also changed the damage calculation, so you end up doing about 30% less damage than you did in 3.15. It's uniform across all three tanks, 30% less even in DPS stance.

[Lilith_Merquise]

The VIT change in 3.2 also changed the damage calculation, so you end up doing about 30% less damage than you did in 3.15. It's uniform across all three tanks, 30% less even in DPS stance.

Really? God I hope that's not what he was refering to, that's not even a 30% difference, more like 10%, and even then, WAR has the highest base HP in the game, so that isn't even remotely a "Nerf" That's putting bubble wrap around a knife and saying it kills people less. Sure you can't cut em, but you can definitely still stab em.

@Myon88 Agreed, if it's something light like that, I would be fine with it, as long as it doesn't effect the kit over all, PVP perks, alright tweek em. But if they pull a "SMN Style" Castration of MCH, I'm just going to lose it.

[fm_fenrir]

Really? God I hope that's not what he was refering to, that's not even a 30% difference, more like 10%, and even then, WAR has the highest base HP in the game, so that isn't even remotely a "Nerf" That's putting bubble wrap around a knife and saying it kills people less. Sure you can't cut em, but you can definitely still stab em.

The reason you feel it's less is because WAR has the best burst potential, so you die slightly slower than you used to if an Infuriated Berserk WAR blasts you with back to back FCs while Holmganging you in place (but you will still die). If you look at the average, WAR is still 30% lower than it used to be in 3.15, including burst phases.

WAR doesn't have the highest base HP in Deliverance, either; they only have more HP in Defiance, which takes Fell Cleave off the table and forces them to use Inner Beast (or sacrifice that HP cushion to switch back to Deliverance).

[Cabalabob]

WAR doesn't have the highest base HP in Deliverance, either; they only have more HP in Defiance, which takes Fell Cleave off the table and forces them to use Inner Beast (or sacrifice that HP cushion to switch back to Deliverance).

Just want to say this isn't true, if you get your WAR, DRK and PLD all to the same ilvl with the same VIT attributes so all their VITs are the same number WAR actually has more hp than the other two even without tank stance. It's only a difference of about 150hp, but it is there.

DRK + PLD i222, 1226 VIT: 23,784hp
WAR i222, 1226 VIT: 23,914hp

[Houston009]

Really? God I hope that's not what he was refering to, that's not even a 30% difference, more like 10%, and even then, WAR has the highest base HP in the game, so that isn't even remotely a "Nerf" That's putting bubble wrap around a knife and saying it kills people less. Sure you can't cut em, but you can definitely still stab em.

@Myon88 Agreed, if it's something light like that, I would be fine with it, as long as it doesn't effect the kit over all, PVP perks, alright tweek em. But if they pull a "SMN Style" Castration of MCH, I'm just going to lose it.

Let's see. 15-20% damage lost from VIT changes alone, on top of Tanks losing the additional damage they gained in pvp, which was 10%.